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  • #166960
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    There is some discrepancy regarding Graceffo’s bonus. MLB Draft Tracker is showing he signed for over slot but Jim Callis tweeted he signed for $53,000 under slot.

    RD (#)….NAME…………..POS…PRJ BONUS…..ACT BONUS……..SURPLUS
    1 (18)….Michael McGreevy..RHP…$3,481,300…..$2,750,000…….$731.300
    2 (54)….Joshua Baez…….OF….$1,338,500…..$2,250,000…….$911,500
    CBB (70)..Ryan Holgate……OF….$906,800
    3 (90)….Austin Love…….RHP…$657,600
    4 (120)…Zane Mills……..RHP…$478,300…….$375,000………$103,300
    5 (151)…Gordon Graceffo…RHP…$353,700…….$300,000………$53,700
    6 (181)…Alfredo Ruiz……LHP…$270,300……..$50,000……….$220,300
    7 (211)…Alec Willis…….RHP…$211,500
    8 (241)…MIke Antico…….OF….$171,200………$20,000………$151,200
    9 (271)…Trent Baker…….RHP…$153,300………$75,000………$78,300
    10 (301)..Osvaldo Tovalin…3B….$144,600………$50,000………$94,600

    SUBTOTAL……………………..$8,167,100…….$5,870,000……..$2,297,100
    Above Slot (Round 11-40)………………………$0
    Pool Money Plus 5%…………….$8,575,455…….$5,870,000……….$2,705,455

    11 (331)……Mack Chambers……SS
    12 (361)……Chris Gerard…….LHP
    13 (391)……Hayes Heinecke…..LHP
    14 (421)……Andre Granillo…..RHP
    15 (451)…….Alex Conrwell…..LHP
    16 (481)…….Aaron McKeithan…C………………………..$50,000
    17 (511)…….Elijah Cabell…..OF
    18 (541)…….Andrew Marrero…..RHP
    19 (571)…….Thomas Francisco…1B……………………….$100,000
    20 (601)…….Xavier Casserilla..3B

    #166961
    Cardinals27
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    Are Holgate or Love likely to go over slot? I am assuming Willis and Caserilla will cost extra.

    #167081
    bccran
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    Are any of these draft picks going to get a little time on a team like Palm Beach or Peoria this season?

    #167083
    mudville
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    It’s odd that the Cardinals don’t, presently,have an MLB starting bat, other than Yadi, of course.

    #167089
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    Holgate and Love are signed, both underslot, but not considerably so.

    It looks like the Cardinals have $1,030,455 left to sign Willis and any other players that require more than $125k after round 10, with the 5% overage on their bonus pool.

    #167091
    mudville
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    Correction- I meant to say ‘It’s amazing that the Cardinals don’t have a Latino MLB starting bat other than Yadi.’

    #167108
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    RD (#)….NAME…………..POS…PRJ BONUS….ACT BONUS….SURPLUS
    1 (18)….Michael McGreevy..RHP…$3,481,300…$2,750,000…$731.300
    2 (54)….Joshua Baez…….OF….$1,338,500…$2,250,000…$911,500
    CBB (70)..Ryan Holgate……OF….$906,800…..$875,000…..$31,800
    3 (90)….Austin Love…….RHP…$657,600…..$600,000…..$57,600
    4 (120)…Zane Mills……..RHP…$478,300…..$375,000…..$103,300
    5 (151)…Gordon Graceffo…RHP…$353,700…..$300,000…..$53,700
    6 (181)…Alfredo Ruiz……LHP…$270,300…..$50,000……$220,300
    7 (211)…Alec Willis…….RHP…$211,500
    8 (241)…MIke Antico…….OF….$171,200…..$20,000……$151,200
    9 (271)…Trent Baker…….RHP…$153,300…..$75,000……$78,300
    10 (301)..Osvaldo Tovalin…3B….$144,600…..$50,000……$94,600

    SUBTOTAL……………………..$8,167,100…$7,345,000…$822,100
    Above Slot (Round 11-40)…………………..$0
    Pool Money Plus 5%…………….$8,575,455…$7,345,000…$1,230,455

    11 (331)……Mack Chambers……SS
    12 (361)……Chris Gerard…….LHP
    13 (391)……Hayes Heinecke…..LHP
    14 (421)……Andre Granillo…..RHP
    15 (451)…….Alex Conrwell…..LHP
    16 (481)…….Aaron McKeithan…C………………………..$50,000
    17 (511)…….Elijah Cabell…..OF
    18 (541)…….Andrew Marrero…..RHP
    19 (571)…….Thomas Francisco…1B……………………….$100,000
    20 (601)…….Xavier Casserilla..3B

    #167213
    bccran
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    Again, BHC, do you think any draftee will get a few games in at Palm Beach?

    #167214
    James Mitan
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    Do we have further confirmation on the bonus for Graceffo?

    300k per Callis and Spotrac signing makes more sense than 500k per MLB draft tracker…

    #167216
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    I imagine if the Cardinals cannot get Willis signed, they should have enough to sign Casserilla.

    But I think the Cardinals took Willis with a predefined bonus like they work out with others before making the pick. They usually work the cap pool very well.

    #167233
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    #15 Cornwell signed for 50k
    #18 Marrero signed for 100k

    #167238
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    Pretty decent draft review from VEB. I know I tend to post several of their articles. It is certainly not intended as a slight to the writers on this site. Just additional information but if I need to stop I will.

    I have to admit, I was very lukewarm on this group as the draft was going on, feeling like the Cardinals made too many sacrifices in rounds 3-10 in order to make sure they could afford Baez in the second. To a certain degree, I still feel that way. But, as I dug in on these guys more deeply and actually scouted them, I came away feeling like Randy Flores and his team did a better job of finding players with intriguing tools than I initially gave credit for. There are still multiple pitchers in this draft I just don’t give much of a chance to — the guys after round ten, obviously, simply because it’s so rare to hit on those players anyway, even if you like them, but also guys like Zane Mills and Alfredo Ruiz I just don’t think have big league stuff — but there are also several players who have one or two tools or skills that could translate into a meaningful career should things break well for them.

    If you gave me the option of taking this draft class versus the one I think the Cards could have had, had they not gone heavy on Baez and maybe one or two other bets, instead spreading the pool to a greater number of interesting players, I think I would choose the latter. They put a lot of eggs into just a couple baskets with this draft, and all along I felt the strength of this draft was its depth, rather than superlative talents at the top who could define a franchise should they be so lucky to draft one of those guys. But, it is also a fact that the Cardinals got a player with one of the highest ceilings in the entire draft at pick 54, and then placed several interesting strategic bets on what might have been undervalued assets due to one reason or another after that. It’s not the draft I would have conducted, but it’s a draft in which I think the Redbirds executed a gameplan they had clearly at least considered beforehand and then jumped to whenever the opportunity presented itself.

    Since 2018, the Cardinals have added Nolan Gorman, Jordan Walker, Masyn Winn, and now Joshua Baez to their system through early draft picks. It’s hard to build a Cubs-style offensive core through the draft when you don’t have top ten draft picks, but you can’t say the Cards aren’t trying.

    https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2021/7/20/22584019/2021-draft-review-no-2-the-later-rounds

    #167302
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    MLB site reporting signings of draft picks.
    13 (391)……Hayes Heinecke…..LHP – $125,000
    14 (421)……Andre Granillo…..RHP – $125,000

    Hope we get Willis (7) and Chambers (11)to sign soon!

    #167406
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    Draft picks 11+ rarely make the major leagues. I always look for sleepers in later rounds (like Adams was), but don’t really see any in this draft. Among the 1st 11 guys, I think they did a great job with McGreevy, Baez, Love, Graceffo, Antico, Baker, and Tovalin.

    #167433
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    MLB is showing two more draft picks signed, both over slot.

    11 (331)……Mack Chambers……SS – $175,000
    12 (361)……Chris Gerard…….LHP – $250,000

    Now, to get Willis signed! (and the other two in the bottom 10).

    #167438
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    #22 Colson Montgomery is 35 miles from me. The WhiteSox gave him a $3M signing bonus.

    Now, he only – ONLY – hit .333 in his senior year in high school this spring. That doesnt seem to be very good to me for the #22 pick in the entire draft.

    What do you guys think?

    r/Esteemed Rat

    #167441
    Brian Walton
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    Albert and Rosenthal previously, Matt Carpenter and Whitley currently are just off the top of my head as post-10th rounders. I bet no one could see their MLB futures on their respective draft day – otherwise they would have been selected far earlier…

    #167478
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    Keith Hernandez and Bob Forsch were post 10th rounders.

    #167486
    bccran
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    I have all the drafts charted for the last 25 years. Sure, several draftees below 10 have made it. Maybe 2-3%. It’s rare.

    #167524
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    Some notable names from the past 20 years that haven’t been mentioned:

    Luke Voit – 2013 22nd Round
    Ryan Sherriff – 2011 28th Round
    Seth Maness – 2011 11th Round
    Tommy Pham – 2006 16th Round
    Jaime Garcia – 2005 22nd Round
    Jason Motte – 2003 19th Round
    Brad Thompson – 2002 16th Round

    #167547
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    I have all those highlighted on my spread
    sheets, BHC. Going back to 2002, how many total draft picks have the Cards had in rounds 11+? Maybe close to 700? So that would make it about 1% that made it?

    #167604
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    MLB is showing another draft pick signed by the Cardinals:

    7 (211)…Alec Willis…….RHP…$211,500…..$1.00m…..-$788,500

    We knew he would go over slot if he signed!

    #167605
    Cardinals27
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    How much is left in draft $$?

    #167606
    cardsfan64
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    Using BlackHills numbers from above, the Cards would have $505,455 left with the 5% overage included to sign the remaining two draft picks. I could be off on my calculations, but that should be close. Went over on the top ten by $177,900.

    #167739
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    St. Louis gave Willis a signing bonus of $788,500, according to MLB Pipeline. That is well over a half million more than his pick’s slot value of $211,500.

    Brian, your article misstates how much Willis was given. According to MLB Pipeline, he was given a $1 million bonus, for a difference of $788,500.

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