December 1, 2020 at 11:15 am #148553
How are they going to shave payroll?December 1, 2020 at 4:57 pm #148576jj-cf-stlParticipant
Dear Santa,December 31, 2020 at 7:24 am #150882
Casino Jon says there is still life in the talks… He should also proof read his tweets…
The #STLCards maintain interest in bringing back Kolten Wong. The decision not to pick up Wong’s $12.5M option, a seemingly East cdll in this environment, was about the price. They like him.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 30, 2020December 31, 2020 at 8:12 am #150892stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
Wong is a very solid all around player. Unfortunately, he plays 2B and the Cards have a cheaper and adequate replacement. Unless he’d take a back loaded deal, signing him means one of Yadi or Waino is likely not coming back.December 31, 2020 at 9:16 am #150902
If the Cardinals remaining shopping list is Yadi, Waino, and a bat then Wong may be the bat. He goes back to 2B, Edman to 3B, and Carp to DH. I would be fine with that because I love defense. They should offer Wong a 2 yr/15M deal. $5M in 2021 and $10M in 2022.January 26, 2021 at 9:26 pm #152493
Almost a month since any Wong news… until now…
Source: Kolten Wong’s market is heating up, amid all of today’s infield movement. The Cardinals, Tigers, Mariners, Rays, Cubs, and Phillies are among the teams to check in on the 30-year-old free agent who has back-to-back NL Gold Gloves at 2B. @MLBNetwork @MLB
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) January 27, 2021January 27, 2021 at 1:30 pm #152547
Wong and Baez in the middle of the Cub infield would be dynamite. Let’s hope he does not go there! I hope we sign him back – one of my favorite Cardinals the last few years.January 27, 2021 at 1:40 pm #152551
Another comment on Wong. In about 3000 plate appearances he has a 17 bWAR. His top season was 2019 with 5.2 bWAR.
Cardinal Hall of Farmer Tommy Herr accumulated 19 bWAR in about in about 1200 more PAs. His great 1985 season was worth 5.6 bWAR.
Wong’s value is under-appreciated. The club will see the difference in 2021 if Wong walks and Edman is the every day second baseman. If he goes to Chicago, we will be doubly hurt with their gain coupled with our loss. Maybe Edman will be better than I am assuming, but right now I do not see it.January 27, 2021 at 3:21 pm #152555RatsbuddyParticipantFree
If Wong does leave I wouldnt worry. We could bring back Tyler Greene. People thought he was just sooooo valuable. Maybe so because he did hit a double once.
r/Esteemed RatJanuary 27, 2021 at 4:29 pm #152556
Rats, let it go already… Greene has been gone for nine years…January 28, 2021 at 8:59 am #152589
Wong and Baez in the middle of the Cub infield would be dynamite. Let’s hope he does not go there! I hope we sign him back – one of my favorite Cardinals the last few years.
Wong’s value is under-appreciated. The club will see the difference in 2021 if Wong walks and Edman is the every day second baseman. If he goes to Chicago, we will be doubly hurt with their gain coupled with our loss. Maybe Edman will be better than I am assuming, but right now I do not see it.
I agree with all of this mike. I was thinking the other day about a Baez/Wong middle infield in Chicago. That would be spectacular defensively and I hope we don’t see it.February 3, 2021 at 12:27 pm #153306February 3, 2021 at 12:51 pm #153310February 3, 2021 at 12:56 pm #153311OnyxgemParticipantFree
outch that hurtsFebruary 3, 2021 at 12:57 pm #153312February 3, 2021 at 1:16 pm #153315stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
Dang, I would have been happy for him if he’d have went to a non division rival. I’m glad he got paid but hope his time in Milwaukee involves no team success.February 3, 2021 at 1:45 pm #153319
Yeah, I don’t like this, but once the Arenado deal went down there was no way the Cardinals were going to commit to Kolten.
We will see if this comes back to bite us. Seems like Wong always hit well in that park, but then it seems the Cardinals in general hit well up there.February 3, 2021 at 3:09 pm #153326
I don’t like to lose him at all but at least he didn’t go to the Cubs.February 3, 2021 at 3:46 pm #153329RatsbuddyParticipantFree
Tommy Edman breathes a sigh of relief. He’s our everyday 2ndbaseman now.
Carpenter becomes the all-around backup/utility player and pinch-hitter. Unless, of course, he beats out Arenado for the 3rdbase job this spring and Arenado becomes the all-around backup/utility player.
r/Esteemed RatFebruary 3, 2021 at 4:42 pm #153330PugsleyAddamsParticipantPaid - Annual
The house next door just went on the market and the wifey commented “wouldn’t that be something if your Cardinal(Wong) moved in”. I don’t know how I’d feel about that? If Kolten whacked a walk off dinger against our Birds, I just know that if I had a little of the Wild Turkey in my belly, I’d do a Justin Bieber on his house and egg the heck out of it.February 3, 2021 at 6:13 pm #153337blingboyParticipantPaid - Annual
I could see Edman doing well enough offensively. Halfway in between 2019 and 2020 say. Effective switch hitter. Swipe a base here and there. Needs to learn how to take a walk though. I’d like to see how his D develops as an everyday second baseman.February 3, 2021 at 6:36 pm #153338PugsleyAddamsParticipantPaid - Annual
What Bling just said. Wong didn’t exactly light the world on fire his first few seasons. He swung for the fences way too often and it cost him and the club. Edman can’t hold Wong’s glove strap…..but then again not many can. But Edman will prove to be much the better hitter and I think a better gamer. I’d go to war with Edman vs Wong any day of the week.February 3, 2021 at 7:07 pm #153339mudvilleParticipantPaid - Annual
Thanks, Pugs. I couldn’t find the right words to say it. But I feel the same way.February 3, 2021 at 9:23 pm #1533411982 willieParticipantPaid - Annual
Well personally I’m happy for wong. Where he went didn’t matter to me. The funny thing is wong worked to become a better player and he became it. Once he did it, the Cardinals chucked him. Personally I think you reward players who do that. The cardinals tend to reward players who clearly were getting worse like carpenter and fowler. I don’t think edman will be the better player of the two long term career view but with the lineup we have now, he might not have to be.February 3, 2021 at 11:46 pm #153345Euro DandyParticipantFree
Mo probably breathed a sigh of relief it wasn’t the Rays who signed Wong.
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