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1td. after this Reds series. Burly needs to make some adjustments as to how he’s being approached. Burleson is a smart hitter. With the talent to go with it. I’m thinking he’ll learn and adjust.
Well Mr Shady, I’ll post what I wish to post, thank you very much. With that said, how have I been exposed? Where is the hate?
The only thing I’ve posted in weeks about Your man-crush is that he’s the greatest .277 hitting outfielder with an OPS under .800 that I’ve ever seen. That’s one heckuva compliment!
The only one who is exposed is you! Everyone knows that no matter the topic, you will try to bring it back to Burleson.
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Gray, at this stage, seems more like a semi-Ace. He’s not consistently dominant. Mo needs to explore getting another top of the rotation starter. It might take letting go of Gorman or even Walker.
AdM, I hope Brian doesn’t tolerate a poster revealing another poster’s real name. That’s classless posting etiquette.
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Mo needs to explore getting another top of the rotation starter
I do not think he needs to do that. The reason is the Cardinals are presently right there in contention for a post-season berth. That satisfies Mo’s stated objective of being competetive. I think that Mo thinks the Cardinals are fixed. From his vantage point (and BDW’s) he did this without significant payroll increase, without taking on huge long term contracts and without trading away potential future MVP or Cy Young winners. Pitching is good enough, offense is good enough. No need to do anything.
Our offense is 27/30 in runs scored. Do I need to say anything else? Any kind of downward trend in the pitching and we are sunk.
KCB, the problem with the offense has been Goldy, NA and Gorman not doing well. Mo is not going to replace any of them. Certainly not with the team sitting on a WC slot. Mo will react to a disaster, not proactively head it off.
To AlbertdM, Shady and all the other characters from CardsTalk:
I have had it with your personal garbage littering this board over and over. I don’t care who you are or what your jobs are. I DON’T CARE! If you don’t stop, next time will be a suspension of your posting privileges.
I don’t know how much clearer I can be. The rules here are simple, yet you guys just cannot seem to help yourselves. I will NOT allow you to drag this board down into the gutter.
I don’t want to read follow on posts with excuses or apologies. I am done sweeping up your messes. Either shape up or you are done here.
The next posts on this thread had better be on the subject of Fixing the Cardinals or they will be deleted.
Yep agreed with Bling. Our expected 3/4/5 or 2/4/5 with how Oli used Goldy in the 2 spot have to produce offensively in order for us to compete. I don’t see a need to go make a rash buy that will cost a lot as this team will ride or die with the performance of those 3 hitters.
Just one last little footnote to what Brian was saying. Make no bones about it gentlemen (Shady & Albert), Brian will take action if further infractions ensue. Take it from someone who knows, as Brian suspended me 3 times back in ’06-’07…….wait….that was Ray and not Brian whom levied two 2 week and one 1 month suspensions in my direction. You know, Brian is such a nice person that maybe he would find great difficulty with pulling the suspension trigger on us unless we got totally out of hand. Not to imply that Brian is a softie, I think it’s just more the case of him being genuinely a very understanding individual. But if I were Shady and Albert, I probably wouldn’t chance it……just put down the gloves and be nice gentlemen! And the heck of it is that you just know if Shady & Albert we to meet in person, they would quickly become good friends.
If Gorman doesn’t start making more consistent contact. Why not send him to Memphis to try to work things out? Bring up the hot-hitting Prieto and give him a try at 2B.
I just looked at a bunch of team hitting stats, and the Cards are at, or slightly below, mlb average on many offensive stats.
However, where they are way below average is runs and lob (obviously, higher is worse).
They should acquire a hitter with a high BA with runners in scoring position
What’s it gonna take to fix the Cardinals? Depends on what you mean by fix. Some on here seem to think we are already fixed! Fixed to them means trying really hard to be somewhere between 5 and 10 spots and maybe 5 games within reach of a playoff spot! That is not fixed to me! We have one high quality starter! We need at least 2 more to be fixed imo! We have no hitting to speak of and zero clutch hitting! That has to be fixed! I am overjoyed that we are competing for the last WC spot but doubt we will be able to hold onto it!
There are simply better teams than uscompeting for the final spot! Arizona and Mets come to mind! Arenado and Goldschmidt are meer shells of their once great selves! Gorman has more wholes in his swing than a piece of Swiss cheese! Walker can’t even really hit for power at AAA
Bling mentions not trading away any Cy or MVP’s! Who the heck would they be? I don’t see anyone we have in danger of winning one of those awards!
Fixed to me means 2004 to 2014 Cardinals! A team capable of winning it all! We are so far removed from those teams that getting back to there seems almost impossible to me!
I would view the chances of Mo trading Gorman this trade deadline at less than 10%. The chances of trading Arenado less than 1%. They are currently sitting in a playoff spot for crying out loud! As Bling pointed out the Cardinals are currently where Mo and BDW are content with. I’m not saying they don’t want to win the divsion but the “get in and see what happens scenario” is definitely within their reach and they are not going to dismantle the starting lineup right now. Perhaps in the offseason the situation will be different.
I would view the chances of Mo trading Gorman this trade deadline at less than 10%. The chances of trading Arenado less than 1%.
Theu shouldn’t be trading any way, since they almost always get their pocket picked. OTOH, they are average of better at free agent signings, so that is what they should persue. This strategy is not in play, mid season, with the trade deadline looming.
One thing they could do, that would mitigate risk, is try to acquire a rental type guy at the trade deadline. They wouldn’t have to give up near as much as with a player under control. Especially if a club is basically dumping salary. The question is whether the Cards want to bloat their payroll for the 2nd half run. It gets back to the same question as to whether the front office is satisfied with being slightly better than average.
The Cardinals need help on both sides to be realistic championship contenders – a top tier rotation member and a big bat. The club is reallly not as good as their record indicates. We win close and lose big, with the risk being the odds will even out some on those close ones.
Starting with the offense, it could be the guy is on the roster. If a couple of players from the likes of Gorman, Goldschmidt, Arenado, Carlson, maybe even Walker, produce then the offense will click. That is providing Winn, Burleson and Contreras keep it going.
If I was Mo, I would look to add a good starting pitcher first and foremost. For a rental maybe Jack Flaherty comes back. A quality longer term pitcher will cost a prime prospect or two, and that will be a tough call. For example is it worth giving up Hence for a shorter term, more proven guy?
June is in the books so lets see the June split for our middle of the order sluggers. Siani’s June split for context.
Nolan Arenado:.263/.322/.375/.697, OPS+ 95
P. Goldschmidt.240/.283/.360/.643, OPS+ 79
Nolan Gorman :.141/.206/.337/.543, OPS+ 49
Michael Siani:.288/.295/.441/.736, OPS+ 103blingboy, right now, it’s a sad situation, no doubt. Gotta keep Winn, Donny, Burly and even Siani going until some of these bats come alive. Contreras needs to pick it up a notch, too. Noot could really help. But, he’s kind of iffy coming off the DL.
Shady, the way I see it, we are beyond 81 games, the halfway point. That is ample time for the middle of the order to “come alive” if they are capable of it.
Going into this season, many of us felt that we had some of the best middle of the order bats in recent memory with Arenado, Goldschmidt, Contreras, Walker, and Gorman. I truly don’t have any idea why that has not played out well.
The veterans who came from elsewhere need to be considered seperately from the young guys developed by the Cardinals. Contreras was doing fine before he was injured. Goldy and NA are post prime and on the downslope. Walker and Gormsn both proved to be unable to hit vs MLB opponents.
The Angels took on Albert’s decline years. Carpenter and Fowler both declined on our tab. Goldy has been a good contract but we should move on.
Arenado has forgotten how to be productive vs lefties. Sub .600 the last I looked. That’s always been his bread and butter too.
Just step down Mo. Let the next guy get started.
Arenado is still in what should be his latter prime years. He just turned 33 in April. His steep decline is a complete surprise. He must have some nagging injuries.
Gorman just swings for the fences, even with a full count. He needs better coaching.
Walker was pushed too fast. Unable to readjust to the MLB pitchers’ adjustments. I hope it doesn’t have a lasting effect.
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