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  • #128184
    Minuteman3
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    There should be a time limit for the replay officials too. Give them 60-90 seconds to make a decision and be done with it.

    As I understand it there are not enough officiating crews in New York to respond immediately to all review calls; hence, the delays or they may want to study a play more closely. But with up to 10 or 12 games going at a time even 3 teams of reviewers in New York could at times be backed up with review calls. I don’t think I have seen many delays attributed to that but some of those delayed calls are undoubtedly caused by the closeness of the play and the need to get the view from multiple cameras. Notice that 1B safe/out calls are rarely delayed very much as the ball/foot views can been seen in a couple of cameras. Requiring the umpire to announce the call will be a great help to those in the stadium. Some think it was a tag at 2B when actually it was the runners path to the base or if the SS actually touched the bag but the fans have not been told which is under review. JMHO

    #128185
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    21 of 101 pass interference call reviews were overturned – 20% and they don’t consider that significant?
    The refs won on that one as they don’t want their judgement challenged. Just another of many reasons I no longer watch the NFL until the Super Bowl rolls around. As I read somewhere once last year about 30-40 percent of the baseball reviews were resulting in overturns. Anybody have more accurate figures.

    #128208
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    I find delays for replays annoying, but on the other hand I like getting a call right. On balance, baseball is a relatively slow game anyway – one of its charms – so what’s a few more minutes, as long as pressure is on managers to limit challenges.

    #128285
    Brian Walton
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    Details of the current proposal per Ken Rosenthal. Owners review Monday, players Tuesday.

    78 to 82-game schedule starting in early July
    East-Central-West only schedule, AL and NL together
    Playing in all local cities including New York (?!?!?)
    Spring training in home city or Florida/Arizona
    Seven playoff teams in each league
    Players asked to take less salary based on percentage of revenue
    Expanded roster of up to 45-50 players
    No details yet on protocol if player tests positive

    #128305
    bicyclemike
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    Would like to get the season going, but of course safety concerns are first. I have always favored larger rosters, but 45-50 man seems extreme.

    Would all of these guys who would normally be minor leaguers have their MLB time officially started? Is MiLB not going to happen in ‘20?

    #128306
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    Would like to get the season going, but of course safety concerns are first. I have always favored larger rosters, but 45-50 man seems extreme.

    Amen to that. Maintaining social distancing, where are they going to sit all of them – in the stands with two seats in between each. Ump stand 6 feet behind catcher who is 6 feet behind the plate. 1st, 2nd, 3rd basemen only do ‘virtual tags.’ Catcher also catches ball at HP and if runner if within 6 feet he scores. All I could go on with this all day……lol Not funny if the country has a second spike in virus. Only would expect that in large cities (and meat packing plants).

    Wife has made us and our son no less than 6 masks 4 of which are St Louis Cardinals logo material. Look sharp but don’t go anywhere so they haven’t been seen in public yet.

    Does large roster size indicate increased number of double headers?

    #128309
    Brian Walton
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    bikemike asked:

    1) Would all of these guys who would normally be minor leaguers have their MLB time officially started?

    2) Is MiLB not going to happen in ‘20?

    1) TBA, but my guess is they will have daily activations. And only those active accrue service time.

    2) It has been looking that way all along. No fans mean no revenue for MiLB teams. That means no season. Best case is back field games in spring training complexes, IMO.

    #128325
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    I thought the regional schedule was coming. It’s just a better way to keep from exposing players. Honestly they’d make it even safer if the the teams just played within each division and have no inter league but that may be too stale for some.

    Also I would assume they’d expand the rosters but not to 40. My guess is it’ll be the 40 man that they’ll use to round out a roster of 28 players. They want to change

    #128375
    Brian Walton
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    USA TODAY conducted an assessment of state and local officials, whose approvals will be needed for MLB to play…

    #128381
    Brian Walton
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    I’ve been thinking about this issue of approvals. If all teams cannot open the season at home due to lack of state/local approval, they would either play their home games in another MLB city or in Florida or Arizona.

    What team would want to be based in another team’s city?
    But if they play out of Florida and Arizona, now teams are going to have to take flights instead of buses. How would that work?

    Let’s say Chicago remains closed. To play the Cubs and White Sox, all of their Central division opponents would have to travel to Arizona.

    #128382
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    It is not aggressive…it should be June. Stop the nonsense.

    #128383
    Brian Walton
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    #128391
    Minuteman3
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    It is not aggressive…it should be June. Stop the nonsense.

    Well are you saying they should be yelling play ball in Yankee Stadium or where the Mets play? Or even St Louis because it is the highest in the state in deaths. Rather than attempt some tainted season I would not be sorry to just see the whole thing scrubbed and let the minor leaguers play at the spring trainng fields. Still not enough room for all of them I guess.

    #128393
    Brian Walton
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    This was the easy part.

    #128396
    Brian Walton
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    #128400
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    #128404
    mudville
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    The owners will capitulate. They always do. The season will start in July and the players will get their full, prorated salary.

    #128407
    Brian Walton
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    The owners always capitulate? Most think they have taken the players to the cleaners in recent negotiations.

    P.S. I guess if you go back more than a quarter century to the 1994-1995 strike, your point would apply. The owners wanted a salary cap, as the current proposal essentially is. However, the losses the game took before the owners finally gave in almost killed the golden goose.

    #128409
    Brian Walton
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    Full speed ahead!

    #128445
    gscottar
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    What team would want to be based in another team’s city?
    But if they play out of Florida and Arizona, now teams are going to have to take flights instead of buses. How would that work?

    Brian, if this MLB plan is adopted (which may or may not happen) where each NL division would play against their AL counterpart do you think the Cardinals would bus to Minnesota, Detroit, and Cleveland or fly? Would the Dodgers take a bus to Houston? Also, does taking a bus offer more social distancing than taking a plane?

    #128447
    Brian Walton
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    Bus was a rumor, but we have no idea. Details being glossed over in the rush to get started, I fear.

    #128460
    Brian Walton
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    #128472
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    Somewhere I saw the figure of 82 games mentioned. They said the teams will stay within their divisions and that would mean 76 games (19×4) I am probably wrong but I thought when they said you would play your AL Central teams it would be something like a rivals series such as KC vs Cards two 3 game series home and away. That would equal 82 (76+6) games. If it is 100 games then they could play 24 games against all AL Central divison teams but that would not break out evenly. Oh well, hopefully I have added to the confusion….lol

    #128477
    Brian Walton
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    I believe I had read speculation that the NL Central teams would play each other more often than they would play the AL Central teams, but I do not recall the math behind it. Who knows? They might bake in a distance formula, with closer teams playing more often… Seems like it would present a real challenge to lock in any schedule until you know which cities you are allowed to play in…

    #128489
    Minuteman3
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    The only thing that I saw that would be a real sticking point with the union would be NO days off.

    And there is this from the internet: “St. Louis continues to be the hardest-hit region. State data shows that 53.4% of confirmed cases, and 70.4% of deaths, have occurred in St. Louis city and county combined.”

    Fans or no fans, it may be hard to convince teams to want to come and play in StL.

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