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    Brian Walton
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    #127804
    Brian Walton
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    Another day, another new proposal. This time, it is Bob Nightengale. He is reporting that MLB teams want to save money and time by having spring training (with internal scrimmages instead of games) in their home ballparks and not return to Arizona and Florida at all. After three weeks, they would then flow into the regular season.

    Those nagging testing and approvals questions remain unanswered, however, including what would happen if some teams were allowed to return home but others could not.

    The story also mentions that umpires are being asked to take a 35% pay cut.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2020/04/30/mlb-expects-use-home-parks-spring-training-if-season-played/3060567001/

    #127923
    forsch31
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    Unless I missed it, has there been any discussion of how the DH will be used this season? I was listening to SXM and they talked about the DH would be used by every team for every game this season. If so, that would make for an interesting discussion for the Cardinals.

    #127925
    Brian Walton
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    Most scenarios assume the division structure will not be the AL-NL variety, therefore a universal DH seems the common denominator. But that is not decided.

    For the Cardinals, just yesterday I posted an article in which the potential of the DH is a prominent part of the story.

    Two St. Louis Cardinals Who May Benefit Most from MLB’s Delay

    #128008
    Brian Walton
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    A very interesting tidbit out of Florida…

    #128017
    Brian Walton
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    #128053
    Brian Walton
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    #128109
    Brian Walton
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    Would any tears be shed over this?

    #128113
    gscottar
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    That might be the best thing to happen in 2020.

    #128117
    Minuteman3
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    Yes, I would regret it. It has made the game better and eliminated a lot of gross mistakes and close calls that could have an impact on a team’s standing. Jim Joyce prevented a perfect game (or was it a no-hitter), the 85 series ump at 1B may have cost the Cards. But what is the objection to having something right? Humans make mistakes and when you start allowing betting on major league baseball you better darn well be sure you have things as accurate as possible. Same with calling balls and strikes – electronic method is coming. We don’t drive Model Ts anymore.

    #128121
    Brian Walton
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    The one positive comment I have is that this year, they were going to require the umps to actually explain what the heck they were talking about in the reviews.

    #128122
    Minuteman3
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    The one positive comment I have is that this year, they were going to require the umps to actually explain what the heck they were talking about in the reviews.

    That should have come with the replay review rule. The announcers seemed to know but the other 99.9% of the fans in attendance did not. Now we will get to judge them by how well they present a call or review. It’s all show business. I guess they could text post it on the screens but better to let the umps voice it.

    #128130
    Brian Walton
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    The thinking in this article resonates with me. MLB is going be as aggressive as the country will allow them. (Using “country” as generically as possible.)

    #128135
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    How about now.

    #128143
    gscottar
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    In theory replay is nice but the key is the execution. Having a five minute delay to decide to keep the same call on the field doesn’t do anything but turn off the casual fan, whom MLB is supposedly trying to attract.

    #128144
    Brian Walton
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    #128146
    Minuteman3
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    I for one don’t think that replay reviews turn off the casual fan (whatever that is). If the play is close enough to have a review it is only fair to have it reviewed no matter if it winds up as the same call or not. It gets the game liked more because questionable calls can be challenged. Reviews are done in football, baseball and horse racing. I haven’t watched a basketball game in 10 years so I don’t know what they do.

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    The casual fan is someone who casually likes baseball. Their attention span is probably short therefore any lulls in the action are more apt to make them turn the channel. You know, like the 20 something year old who has his face buried in his iphone all day. This would probably not include the diehard fans on this board.

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    Brian Walton
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    #128174
    14NyquisT
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    Good call gscott.

    In theory replay is nice but the key is the execution. Having a five minute delay to decide to keep the same call on the field doesn’t do anything but turn off the casual fan, whom MLB is supposedly trying to attract.

    I’m more than a casual baseball fan and I disliked the replay fiasco from day one. If you want to speed up the game getting rid of replay is is the best option.

    Two men in black with wires and headsets standing around for 5-10 minutes will look so archaic 10 years from now. For me it does now.

    Keep the umpires happy and don’t show replays on close calls, it just ruins the integrity of the game. Baseball survived for decades before instant replay.

    #128177
    Brian Walton
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    Ny, I was with you until this:

    Keep the umpires happy and don’t show replays on close calls, it just ruins the integrity of the game.

    Respectfully, that just is not a good idea and it is never going to happen.

    #128178
    gscottar
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    I am not saying that replay should be thrown out altogether. It just should be more efficient. Managers should be given 2 challenges per game. If their challenge is overturned then they lose a challenge. If their challenge is upheld then they can keep it. There should be a time limit for the replay officials too. Give them 60-90 seconds to make a decision and be done with it.

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    14NyquisT
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    Minuteman3
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    it just ruins the integrity of the game.

    So letting a lousy call stand enhances the integrity of the game?
    I think that even a casual fan is interested in seeing the outcome of a close call determined by review.
    But then I don’t really care how long a game lasts and think the piddling changes they have made in the interest of saving time are largely being ignored. Take the batter not getting out of the box as an example. Is that rule ever enforced and that little procedure does add time

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