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November 30, 2021 at 7:59 am #177627
So much of this is just showing how absurd the argument between owners and players is right now. This is a hot market thanks to the depressed salaries the last two years. I hope both sides realize that a protracted stoppage will kill all the fun and good will of the last few days, setting the game on a course to be the #3, possibly #4 sport in America in the next 20 years. Get it right, baseball.
November 30, 2021 at 8:20 am #177629Pork Twain
ParticipantI wish the <LB would do a cap and a floor, at some point.
November 30, 2021 at 8:54 am #177630PadsFS
ParticipantI actually like the idea of a shortened time to do FA deals in the winter. It completely hurts agents like Boras that like to slow play the market.
It feels very much like the NBA FA season, which is a ton of fun to follow.
November 30, 2021 at 9:16 am #177631I actually like the idea of a shortened time to do FA deals in the winter. It completely hurts agents like Boras that like to slow play the market.
Well, Boras got $630 million for his clients in the past few days so I don’t think he was hurt all that much. I don’t care for him much, but he’s a player’s agent without a doubt and he gets the job done.
That said, I would be in favor of the same. Make it Jan 1 so that baseball gets in on the headlines around the holidays more. Then maybe an off-season trade deadline too. Pressure makes people act and that’s what the game needs right now. The action of the last few days is fun.
November 30, 2021 at 9:44 am #177636So much of this is just showing how absurd the argument between owners and players is right now. This is a hot market thanks to the depressed salaries the last two years. I hope both sides realize that a protracted stoppage will kill all the fun and good will of the last few days, setting the game on a course to be the #3, possibly #4 sport in America in the next 20 years. Get it right, baseball.
Exactly. How can the owners and players whine about money when over a billion dollars has been spent in the last couple of days? They better not mess this up.
November 30, 2021 at 9:46 am #177637I actually like the idea of a shortened time to do FA deals in the winter. It completely hurts agents like Boras that like to slow play the market.
It feels very much like the NBA FA season, which is a ton of fun to follow.
I totally agree. I would do an annual December 31 deadline for free agents and maybe a later deadline for offseason trades. It is way more exciting than the normal offseason.
November 30, 2021 at 9:49 am #177638So, does Seager to the Rangers move Trea Turner back to shortstop? And perhaps Muncy and/or Taylor to 2ndbase? What about 1st now? Would the Dodgers want to bring Pujols back for another year to hit against lefties?
The Dodgers are not having a good offseason so far. They have lost Scherzer and Seager while Kershaw, Taylor, and Jansen remain unsigned. Plus they are dealing with the Bauer headache. They owe him $35M the next two years and don’t even know if we will be playing or not.
November 30, 2021 at 10:06 am #177639How different has this offseason been as compared to last year? Last November saw only five free agents sign deals worth at least $1 million — all for one year and none for more than $15 million.
The first $20 million deal wasn’t signed until Dec. 15, when James McCann signed a four-year, $40.6 million contract with the Mets. Ha-Seong Kim’s four-year, $28 million contract with the Padres was the only other deal worth more than $20 million that was signed before the end of 2020.
No player signed a deal worth as much as Rodriguez’s $77 million deal until Jan. 27, when DJ LeMahieu signed a six-year, $90 million pact with the Yankees. This month, five free agents have already topped the $100 million mark, with Seager topping $300 million.
Of the 14 contracts handed out last winter worth at least $20 million, 12 were signed after Jan. 19. As of Monday afternoon, 17 players had already agreed to $20 million or more in guaranteed money.
“I think there is fear of the unknown on both sides,” an American League executive said. “There is only one thing I know for sure: deadlines bring deals, and Dec. 1 is a looming deadline. Players like to know where they are going.”
A November free-agent burst has energized the @MLB offseason: https://t.co/Ifuu4cv7Hv
— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) November 29, 2021
November 30, 2021 at 10:23 am #177641PadsFS
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Daniel Hudson headed to the Dodgers, it looks like.
I would have really like Hudson and the guy the Rays got in Brooks Raley. Maybe they will get Collin McHugh (1.55 ERA, 247 ERA+), Andrew Chafin (1.83 ERA, 230 ERA+), or Corey Knebel (2.45 ERA, 169 ERA+) still.
November 30, 2021 at 11:27 am #17764514NyquisT
ParticipantJoe Kelly anyone? Its rare for players to have reunions but…. What would he cost? Maybe 6/7 million?
November 30, 2021 at 11:48 am #177648Cursed Padres are in talks with Garcia and Suarez…
November 30, 2021 at 11:52 am #177649The Cardinals don’t need to let Garcia slip away. He was terrific for us last year.
November 30, 2021 at 12:17 pm #177650I’d like them to get Kelly back. Incentive laden deal, and he could be our closer. And I wish we had locked up Garcia too. Has way too live of an arm. The best bet for us is to build a great bullpen. And a greater urgency than usual since the lockdown is likely in 2 days. Let’s sign a couple more relievers, and then go for low hanging fruit too.
November 30, 2021 at 12:36 pm #177651Wilson Contreras would be a great move, imo. To continue the tradition of great defensive catchers for the Cards.
November 30, 2021 at 1:37 pm #177652Suarez never walks anyone; four guys over the last two seasons as a closer is interesting considering the temptation to pitch around some hitters.
December 1, 2021 at 1:48 pm #177711I would say this deal is about the same as the Matz deal. Slightly above average pitcher, probably has more trouble staying healthy than Matz. The two years may be better, maybe not.
The Giants have announced a two-year, $25 million deal with Alex Wood.
— Alex Pavlovic (@PavlovicNBCS) December 1, 2021
December 1, 2021 at 3:09 pm #177724Similar but I would rather pay two years instead of four even if the AAV is a little higher. Tomayto, Tomoto.
December 1, 2021 at 3:53 pm #177731Similar but I would rather pay two years instead of four even if the AAV is a little higher. Tomayto, Tomoto
It’s a fair take. I’d argue at his age, paying him reliever money for four years isn’t a bad bet at all. There’s no guarantee we will have 5 better starters in two years to make him expendable, and if he is, we can likely trade him away and save the money anyway. I like Matz to outperform Wood over 2 and 4 years.
December 1, 2021 at 8:57 pm #177777Any chance we could sign Kershaw to a make good 1 year deal? Not sure the extent of his injury, or return.
December 1, 2021 at 9:54 pm #177778Right-hander Nick Martinez and the San Diego Padres are in agreement on a four-year, $20 million contract, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN. Martinez, 31, starred for the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks in Japan this year (1.62 ERA) and gets opt-outs after first and second year.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 2, 2021
December 2, 2021 at 9:21 am #177784Any chance we could sign Kershaw to a make good 1 year deal? Not sure the extent of his injury, or return.
From everything I have read Kershaw will either sign with the Dodgers or Rangers or retire.
December 29, 2021 at 6:09 pm #178532A pretty good player who retired while he still had something left in the tank. I felt like Seager might have been a decent fit on the Cards at some point. Best of luck, Kyle!
Kyle Seager has announced his retirement. pic.twitter.com/JMwE3KtHIu
— FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) December 29, 2021
January 3, 2022 at 9:46 am #178681Only four starting pitchers from our Top 50 Free Agents list remain on the market:https://t.co/sgtRzOPNec pic.twitter.com/O5RFvY5Wbx
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) January 3, 2022
January 23, 2022 at 6:26 am #179404Why do the Cardinals not spend more? This could help answer the question.
They don’t have to in order to be the best in the division. Get to the playoffs and hope for the best.
Just how GOOD or BAD has your team been this past decade…. What surprises you the MOST about these standings? pic.twitter.com/OfedIhx4fj
— The Game Day MLB (@TheGameDayMLB) January 22, 2022
January 30, 2022 at 10:50 am #17959514NyquisT
ParticipantThe negotiations that don’t seem to be moving in a positive direction for the fans plus Omicron = very little to think and talk about. Is 2022 going to be as disappointing a year as the last two flat out frightening ones? I’m trying to be optimistic but this off-season sucks.
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