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June 29, 2020 at 7:20 am #131788
Hopefully, the players will be as safe as possible away from the park, but as MM3 and others noted, there are going to be positive tests. Following the protocols and being as responsible as possible seem the key to keeping the season moving ahead.
The Cardinals already in town and the front office folks had their first round of tests and are awaiting results.
As players prepare to report this week, an update per NYT tracker: 23 teams are staging "summer camp" in counties with increasing cases. Some of this is the result of increased testing (i.e. Chicago). But Texas, Florida, Arizona, Los Angeles and elsewhere are all trending poorly. https://t.co/bCzDKBkywm
— Andy McCullough (@ByMcCullough) June 29, 2020
June 29, 2020 at 9:02 am #131805Some older coaches with other teams, including Dusty Baker and Ron Washington, are reporting for duty.
The Minnesota #Twins have informed bullpen coach Bob McClure, 68, and major league coach Bill Evers, 66, that they won't be working games this year, citing health and safety concerns, per @LaVelleNeal. They will still be paid.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) June 29, 2020
June 29, 2020 at 1:28 pm #131821Mike Leake is the first player known to opt out of the season. Plus the team has some other issues…
Mike Leake has opted out of playing for @Dbacks during this covid-plagued season. GM Mike Hazen said he had talked to Leake, but declined to disclose the contents of the conversation. Under the health plan, players can opt out and forgo service time and pay if healthy. @Sportico pic.twitter.com/EISzkqmi8q
— Barry M. Bloom (@Boomskie) June 29, 2020
#Dbacks had a “couple” players on the 40-man roster test positive for COVID-19, according to Mike Hazen.
— Jesse Friedman (@JesseNFriedman) June 29, 2020
June 29, 2020 at 1:39 pm #131823Not 100% clear, but it looks like the Cards may have already paid the Mariners for their part of Leake’s contract…
Mike Leake was originally scheduled to earn $15 million from the #DBacks in 2020, with the #Mariners paying $9 million of his salary. He has an $18 million club option for 2021 with a $5 million buyout. The Mariners must also pay the #Dbacks $5 million on Jan. 15, 2021.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) June 29, 2020
June 29, 2020 at 1:50 pm #131824I have been wondering that myself. It appears to be clear as mud.
June 29, 2020 at 5:12 pm #131828
stlcard25ParticipantThe Nationals have two players who plan to sit out, Ryan Zimmerman and Joe Ross.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29384355/nationals-ryan-zimmerman-joe-ross-opt-2020-season
I think we should expect that most teams will have at least one player who won’t play this year.
June 29, 2020 at 9:16 pm #131840Not 100% clear, but it looks like the Cards may have already paid the Mariners for their part of Leake’s contract…
Rebate?
June 29, 2020 at 9:27 pm #131841During entry screening, #Cardinals have had one positive COVID-19 test so far. They are following procedure of re-testing, self-quarantine with individual, official says. Team has had no players opt out of 2020 season as of now. More on testing process: https://t.co/s2izo5xbBE
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) June 30, 2020
June 29, 2020 at 9:48 pm #131842#Rockies outfielder Ian Desmond, saying he's not comfortable with the risks involved with the COVID-19 pandemic, and citing the need to be with his young family, says he will not play major league baseball in 2020.
via @PsaundersDP https://t.co/Azl5VC0HBH
— Denver Post Rockies (@DPRockies) June 30, 2020
June 30, 2020 at 8:16 am #131851Leake was traded by the Reds rather than extend him. The Cardinals and the Mariners both had to pay to get rid of him. The Mariners will have to pay another $5M so that the D-backs can get rid of him.. Leake will be free agent after 2020. Lets see if he’s one of the loudest voices complaining if he doesn’t get the offer he wants in free agency.
June 30, 2020 at 8:18 am #131852I saw a mention that Leake has exactly 10.0 years of service time, entitling him to a full MLB pension.
June 30, 2020 at 9:24 am #131872I think Leake is owed at least a $5M option for 2021. I assume he will still get that money even though he is opting out this year, assuming that he plays next year.
June 30, 2020 at 1:16 pm #131890Was thinking today of the irony that will exist with the Cardinals playing to an empty stadium and right next door people will packed like sardines in ball park village drinking and watching the game.
June 30, 2020 at 1:29 pm #131892It will be interesting to see how the city officials deal with this possibility. Same could occur in Chicago.
P.S. I would bet a lot of money that the Cardinals stadium ops folks are busily working on a social distancing plan to open Busch that they could take to officials for approval.
June 30, 2020 at 2:13 pm #131893I would think the Ballpark Village area will have social distancing restrictions. I doubt any place will be “packed like sardines” for awhile.
June 30, 2020 at 3:57 pm #131897
jj-cf-stlParticipantFrom CBS, Leake is not known to be high risk. Meaning he forgoes his pro-rated pay and service time until it’s established he is high risk for 2020.
The 9mil due from SEA to ARI could include the 4mil from STL, just unmentioned, but it appears Leake has chosen unpaid for 2020, so STL should owe nothing.
I agree GS, his buyout for 2021 is a different season, not this pro-rated version. Whether he plays or not, I am expecting all 2021 buyouts to be due in full, until we hear different, (if ARI decides to exercise Leakes buyout).
June 30, 2020 at 4:10 pm #131899The 2021 buyouts are being debated now by the two parties. It should not be difficult to guess their respective positions.
June 30, 2020 at 4:57 pm #131900So much yet to be learned…
"This particular virus causes more problems with the heart than any other virus so that's why we're being particularly careful," Dr. Phelan told CBS Sports. "That's why we're being more conservative in terms of our recommendations for return to play." https://t.co/x309wFfH8G
— Ben Frederickson (@Ben_Fred) June 30, 2020
June 30, 2020 at 7:03 pm #131902
jj-cf-stlParticipantDiscussing 2021 buyouts now? Why is there a need to discuss the 2021 season when 2020 still hasn’t had an opening day?
June 30, 2020 at 7:41 pm #131903The buyouts are a small part of a bigger matter, which is options vesting and how the shortened 2020 season applies. It is definitely an important matter to get resolved quickly. I had posted a link or two about this over on the salaries thread, which would be a better place to continue this discussion. Thanks.
June 30, 2020 at 9:49 pm #131907It will be interesting to see how the city officials deal with this possibility. Same could occur in Chicago.
P.S. I would bet a lot of money that the Cardinals stadium ops folks are busily working on a social distancing plan to open Busch that they could take to officials for approval.
I’m honestly surprised no one is talking about this more but am not shocked if they were trying to keep quiet about it. The Cardinals and all other 29 teams should have at least a plan in place for 2021. “wink Wink”
July 1, 2020 at 7:21 am #131911Right. Since the owners tried for months to convince the players to take less salary because they could not have fans this season, they have to walk a bit lightly… 😉
July 1, 2020 at 9:43 am #131945Important note here: Hottovy is 38 and had no underlying issues https://t.co/JGggTZX1JK
— Brian Wacker (@brianwacker1) July 1, 2020
July 1, 2020 at 10:48 am #131947This is so stupid. This is unbelievably stupid. Do not do this. https://t.co/VewJjyrUbD
— Mike Petriello (@mike_petriello) July 1, 2020
July 1, 2020 at 11:48 am #131950No guts, no glory! It’s not always stupid. Just make it part of a challenge trial. Where would we be without challenge trials? We’d be minus a few vaccines for sure.
Full disclosure though: I’m not volunteering. 🙂
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