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“Who were the Cardinals planning on having as a closer if they traded away Helsley?”
Well, they still have Giovanny Gallegos under contract for two more years, and he’s been as effective as Bruce Sutter or Lee Smith so far in his Cardinal career.
Sutter with Cards: 132 ERA+, 397 IP, 6.3 WAR
Big Lee with Cards: 128 ERA+, 267 IP, 4.4 WAR
Gallegos thus far: 142 ERA+, 230 IP, 4.1 WAROkay, I take it back, kind of. Bruce did give an incredible volume of innings. But again, in terms of effectiveness, Gallegos is right there with the Hall Of Famers. He gets out both righty and lefty batters (career OPS allowed of .559 and .611, respectively), and he pitches well on zero days rest, with a career .610 OPS and an unfathomable 52-to-4 K/BB ratio. Cleanup hitters have a .532 OPS against him, so he does dandy against even the best batters. He would be fine as the regular 9th inning guy, I think.
All of that said, I don’t believe I’d make that trade for Danny Ouchie Jansen. The Redbird pitching is mediocre as is, so why water it down? Heck, I wouldn’t have released Alex Reyes, frustrating though he is. Just forty good innings would be worth a few million bucks.
A look back at the standout catchers employed by the #STLCards over the decades prior to new signee Willson Contreras. (free) https://t.co/tkPoMHArH3 pic.twitter.com/frs7XY6wPK
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 24, 2022
That was a fun article to read. We have been blessed with some great catchers.
Also had a three year run with Tony Pena (unfortunate Van Slyke trade) and who can forget Glenn Brummer stealing home…lol
Too bad Contreras doesn’t really fit the cardinal mold but hopefully he does well now that he is here.
Gallegos should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Sutter ever. Sutter was never afraid of the moment. Not saying he didn’t blow games cause every pitcher has. But gallegos, if an egg shell cracked at the wrong time when he was pitching, I’m not sure where the ball would go or what he would do. Totally goes into Barney Fife mode in the biggest moments. He’s a solid pitcher but that’s it.
Gallegos should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Sutter ever.
This sentence is disgusted with itself. 🙂
Oxymoron aside, I agree with Willie. When Sutter came in games as early as the 7th, I felt like the game was in the bag. With Gallegos, I sweat. Maybe a lot of that is because I’m older with a different view, but also some of it is Gallegos doesn’t exude confidence when he takes so much time. Will interesting to see how the pitch clock affect him. I think it might help him to get on with it and not overthink.
Below are the career and numerous situational statistics, i.e., “clutch splits,” for Bruce Sutter and Giovanny Gallegos. These numbers are not intended to persuade anyone of anything, but rather to merely inform and if possible very mildly entertain.
Overall Career OPS Allowed: Sutter .628, Gallegos .582
September Only: Sutter .701, Gallegos .637
Two Outs: Sutter .579, Gallegos .607
Men On Base: Sutter .631, Gallegos .660
R.I.S.P.: Sutter .661, Gallegos .702
2 Outs, R.I.S.P.: Sutter .605, Gallegos .623
Late & Close: Sutter .630, Gallegos .595
Tied Score: Sutter .647, Gallegos .508
High Leverage: Sutter .659, Gallegos .647
Medium Leverage: Sutter .571, Gallegos .499
Low Leverage: Sutter .610, Gallegos .582
9th Inning: Sutter .634, Gallegos .607
Extras: Sutter .695, Gallegos .968 (20 at-bats)Ah, so it’s extra inning performance that will keep Gio out of the HOF?
Sorry, Bob, I’m tossing out that comment only to mildly entertain. 🙂 Interesting numbers.
I don’t believe the Cards had any actual willingness to trade Helsley. Just winter meetings media spew.
Gallegos will have an interesting time dealing with the pitch clock.
No surprise: Reliever Giovanny Gallegos was STL’s slowest worker & will have to pick up the pace in 2023. His 25.8 seconds tempo (bases empty) was tied for last (399th) & his 30.6 seconds tempo (runners on) was next to last (398th) — ahead of only Kenley Jansen (31.4 sec). (3/5)
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) December 19, 2022
Contreras should be able to greatly exceed the mess that was the Cards catching spot in the order last season. I know this has already gone over and over but IMO he will start over 100 games behind the plate and x amount as DH. Its something that we haven’t had in a couple of years as Molina was breaking down and refusing to sit game after game. For me I have a very positive feeling about Contreras and I can hardly wait for spring training to start up in less than two months to see if I’m correct about him.
On the Sutter/Gallegos thing, we tend to be much more concerned over recent failures than those of the past.
Most every stat shows Gallegos comparable to Sutter. The biggest difference is Bruce did it over 1000 innings, whereas Gio has only thrown 260. If Gio can maintain the pace he is on for another 750 innings or so, then we can make a fair comparison to Sutter.
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