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November 24, 2023 at 5:53 pm #238085
bb – I did listen to Brian’s interview with Crooks. I said about the Pages interview that my opinion is subjective. With that I’ll say that I sense that Crooks has a little swagger. And with Crooks it sounds like it’s based on genuine confidence, and not ego. Almost all of the interview was about Crooks’ offense which was very good (.271/.358/.433/.791) at A+ in 2023, but not quite as impressive as Pages’ offense (.267/.362/,443/.806)at AA. Crooks CS% was around 27% in 2023. Bernal, who is 2.5 years younger than Crooks, had a CS% of around 23%. Pages CS% in 2022 was 30% and in 2023 it was 38%. I was going to vote for Bernal as my No. 11 prospect, but I’m going to move Pages ahead of both Bernal and Crooks. Maybe all three of these players will become everyday catchers, but I’m thinking that Pages will be the first to get the chance.
November 24, 2023 at 6:45 pm #238091Fair enough mud. I do hope Pages does well in AAA.
November 24, 2023 at 7:16 pm #238093Davis 13 / Bernal 13 / Rajcic 12 / Robberse 5 / Hansen 2 / Cho 1 / Mautz 1 / Kloffenstein 1
In the past, the tiebreaker was whoever got their first so I’ll stick with that. Davis will be # 9 and Bernal # 10 with Rajcic narrowly missing out in this round.
1. Winn
2. Saggese
3. Hence
4. Roby
5. Scott
6. Hjerpe
7. Graceffo
8. McGreevey
9. Davis
10. BernalVoting for 11 and 12 is open.
I’m going with Cho at 11. I’m surprised that he isn’t getting more love here. He is a little under the radar because he is so young but he had a really good development year and he could be a seriously good impact player down the road. I expect him to have a breakout year as he puts it all together in 2024.
I really love all the comments on Rajcic. I like him a ton. But I’m going to go Robberse first. He’s incredibly young for AAA and other than his first outing there, he really held his own.
#11 Cho
#12 RobberseNovember 24, 2023 at 7:20 pm #23809411. Rajcic
12. HansonNovember 24, 2023 at 7:34 pm #238095#11 Rajcic
#12 Robberse – the 22 year-old at AAANovember 24, 2023 at 8:28 pm #238098Sorry, for the delay in voting. We’ve been traveling with the holidays. Looks like Davis came in a 9 so for 11 and 12 I’ll go #11 Rajcic and #12 Cho.
November 24, 2023 at 8:39 pm #238101
stlcard25Participant#11. Robberse
#12. Max RajcicNovember 24, 2023 at 10:02 pm #23810311. Rajcic
12. PagesIt’s hard to put Pages here ahead of Bedell who I have next at No. 13. The tie breaker for me is that Pages is having success at AA and Bedell is doing it at A+.
I’ve never seen this much talent running into the 11-20 range, and even into the 21-30 range.
November 24, 2023 at 10:48 pm #238105
cardsfan64Participant#11 – Max Rajic
#12 – Sem RobberseNovember 24, 2023 at 11:40 pm #23810611 Rajic
12 CrooksNovember 25, 2023 at 12:36 am #238107#11 Sem Robberse
#12 Jimmy CrooksNovember 25, 2023 at 2:16 am #23810811. Max Rajcic
12. Jimmy Dale CrooksNovember 25, 2023 at 2:21 am #238109LouisEu
Participant#11 Robberse
#12 Showalter(Rajcic 2001 A+ Lev. / Showalter 2004 A Lev.)
November 25, 2023 at 7:02 am #23811311. Rajcic
12. CrooksIn August Mautz struck out 18 and walked only 1 in 13 IP, but he did that at PB while Rajcic had been moved up to Peoria. I note that TCN top prospects list still had Mautz ranked higher than Rajcic as of the most recent update in August, but am assuming their relative ranks will be reversed in the list Brian is currently rolling out. They are both College pitchers in their first pro year on the mound, and it was Rajcic who moved up. So I can accept the groupthink and go with Rajcic instead of Mautz at this point. I am not sure it will pan out that way in the end.
Since Bernal is already on the board at #10, I am wanting to get Crooks on too, so that is why I am moving away from Mautz in this round and will come back around next time.
November 25, 2023 at 7:55 am #238116bccran
Participant11. Cho
12. RobberseNovember 25, 2023 at 10:56 am #23812414NyquisT
ParticipantDid you jump off of the Hansen train?
November 25, 2023 at 10:57 am #23812514NyquisT
Participant#11 Rajcic
#12 Kloffenstein
November 25, 2023 at 2:02 pm #23813911 Rajcic
12 HansenNovember 25, 2023 at 3:25 pm #238146Jimmy Dale Crooks
I like your style, Bobby!
11. Maxwel Scott Rajcic
12. Win-Big ChoRajcic’s WHIP just jumps out at you!
Muchos gracious, Senor Nevel.
November 26, 2023 at 2:46 pm #238190Rajcic 23 / Robberse 10 / Cho 6 / Crooks 4 / Hansen 2 / Pages 1 / Showalter 1 / Kloffenstein 1
Rajcic easily wins #11 and the young Robberse makes it as #12.
1. Winn
2. Saggese
3. Hence
4. Roby
5. Scott
6. Hjerpe
7. Graceffo
8. McGreevey
9. Davis
10. Bernal
11. Rajcic
12. RobberseI apologize for being a bit late with this post. Because of that, I won’t tally is up again until Tuesday morning.
I’m sticking with Cho for my next pick. Then, I’m going with Kloffenstein. I had Kloffenstein virtually tied with Robberse and McGreevey and I kept switching them all up between 11-13. I can’t decide who I’d trade away if I had to trade one or two of them. They all seem like solid guys who are good teammates with good talent, but not enough talent to make a huge impact. Still, reliability is a good thing. And that’s something these guys all seem to bring.
#13 Cho
#14 KloffensteinNovember 26, 2023 at 2:52 pm #238191For those of you who may not follow prospects as closely, here are some guys to look at in the range that we are in: Won Bin Cho, Kloffenstein, Showalter, Crooks, Pages, Honeyman, Granillo, Bedell, Levenson, Nunez, Mautz, and Matthews. There may be a few others to consider here too depending on your preference, but this is a good start.
November 26, 2023 at 3:39 pm #238192#13 – Kloffenstein – put up the best numbers of any of the pitchers at AAA
#14 – Pedro Pages – Pages & Crooks had similar slash lines, Pages has the higher caught stealing %November 26, 2023 at 4:01 pm #238194LouisEu
Participant#13 Showalter
#14 Drew RomNovember 26, 2023 at 4:07 pm #23819613. Crooks
14. MautzNovember 26, 2023 at 4:42 pm #238199#13 Pages
#14 BedellPages had something of a breakout offensively in 2023. His defense was always strong. His CS% is quite a bit higher than either Bernal or Crooks, and Pages is doing it at AA. If he makes another stride like he did this year, in 2024 he will easily make it into the top 10.
After COVID and TJ setbacks since being drafted in 2020, Bedell looked like he was finally back in 2023 at Peoria. He just needs more time and more reps to get fully back with all of his pitches. Eventually, this Mizzou alumnus could be a solid No. 3 starter, if not better, IMO.
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