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It’s not easy to forget the line drive that handcuffed him for an E-7 in the 9th inning of game 2 of the ’09 NLDS.
No it ain’t! That one hurt me more than it did him, lol. Well, probably not.
I saw his son’s interview after his debut Friday. There’s no way that kid can be ready for MLB yet if you go by his face. I was surprised he looked so young, a real baby face. I would’ve said he’s about 16. I bet in person he looks a lot older if his physique is anything like Dad’s.
WOW …Burly riding the pine AGAIN today. Despite being touted by Jim Edmonds and Ricky Horton and the “respect” of Oli Marmol, it seems that the undeniable numbers have caught up with him.
Against a RHP. Wow.
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Burleson has had a job the past two seasons due to the ridiculous amount of OF injuries. As guys like Noot, DC, and Edman return, Burleson will find him either on the bench or in Memphis.
I’d send him to Memphis so that he can work on hitting with some power. Fat, slow, single hitters aren’t much use to teams.
So Burleson was the problem on offense. Is that what you Burleson critics claim? Bullhockey, the Cardinals could have used his bat in the lineup today against Gallen. Burleson was hitting well when he got relegated to the bench.
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No, he wasn’t hitting well. He’s never hit well. Once again, I’ll post his woeful career slash line, but you’ll probably keep pretending he’s something he’s not:
.238-.295-.367-.662 81
Mr Shady you’re either a deliberate contrarian or completely delusional. The above slash line encapsulates 403 career ABs.
He is what he is. A slow, singles hitting, poor fielder who doesn’t hit for average or power, nor does he walk much.
At this point he has no business being on an mlb team.
AdM, that’s ridiculous. Check out what he did against the Phillies right before Nootbaar was called up. I saw a pattern of productive hitting. Yes, Burleson was “hitting well”. Do you disagree?
AdM, that’s ridiculous. Check out what he did against the Phillies right before Nootbaar was called up. I saw a pattern of productive hitting. Do you disagree?
For weeks: “Disregard all the stats and data on Burleson (442 PAs), it’s way too early to draw any conclusions.”
Now: “Check out the stats from Burleson’s whopping two good games against the Phillies (7 PAs), time to draw some conclusions!”
RBK, sometimes a team needs to “ride the hot hitters” at the time. Same with Herrera. When Nootbaar came back, against the RHP for Arizona. Noot should have been in CF, Burleson in RF and Herrera either DH or catcher. Vice versa with Contreras.
RBK, sometimes a team needs to “ride the hot hitters” at the time. Same with Herrera. When Nootbaar came back, against the RHP for Arizona. Noot should have been in CF, Burleson in RF and Herrera either DH or catcher. Vice versa with Contreras.
A whopping 2 games and 7 PAs qualify someone as a “hot hitter?” So by that same logic, when Burleson was 3 for his last 19 going into those 2 games against the Phillies, he shouldn’t even have been playing at all because at that time he was a “cold hitter,” right? Your argument is nonsense.
I hate to break this to you, but professional baseball organizations don’t run themselves like every day is an open tryout, and they don’t radically alter their views based on a handful of ABs.
Shady wrote: “RBK, sometimes a team needs to “ride the hot hitters” at the time. Same with Herrera. When Nootbaar came back, against the RHP for Arizona. Noot should have been in CF, Burleson in RF and Herrera either DH or catcher. Vice versa with Contreras.”
So once again, for weeks you told everyone on here to completely disregard Burleson’s stats and data (over 441 PAs) because you said it was too early to draw any conclusions. But now you’re fine drawing conclusions (at least the ones you already desperately want to believe) and making decisions based on 7 PAs???
RBK, hold on! I expressed my concern for the way Burleson started out the season. Your wires are crossed on my supposed claim. So, why not acknowledge the progress he was making? Is that too much to ask? You might need to consider being more concerned about more highly aclcaimed Cardinals hitters. But no, I understand, Burleson is the “whipping boy” for you and some others.
RBK, hold on! I expressed my concern for the way Burleson started out the season. Your wires are crossed on yjisw.. So, why not acknowlege the progress he was making?
No, you’re trying to have it both ways (again). For weeks, you said no one should put any credence in Burleson’s statistics (in 441 PAs) because it was way too early to draw any conclusions. Then, Burleson has a couple of good games, and suddenly you’re back on here cherry-picking 7 PAs and conclusively stating they’re evidence of “progress” and that he’s a “hot hitter.”
It’s a straightforward question: When you tell everyone it’s too early to draw any conclusions based on 441 PAs, why is it OK (or remotely reasonable) for you to draw any conclusions based on 7 PAs?
Allow me to bottom line this sucker.
In 42 trips to the dish this season, the Red Hot Burleson has 2 XBH, 2 runs scored, and 2 RBI.
How can Oli keep that kind of production out of the lineup?
How can Oli keep that kind of production out of the lineup?
That is actually a worthwhile question to ask, considering that Burleson’s OPS+ 62 is higher than lineup regulars Goldschmidt OPS+ 60 and Walker OPS+ 54. Neither of them have been defensive whizbangs either. Offensive ineptitude does not seem to be an impediment. Burleson can play both of their positions, and 62 is better than 60 and 54.
edit. Not that it would matter.
It’s almost as if players have different track records and decisions aren’t being made based on a relatively minuscule sample of PAs . . .
Well if a guy is hitting .190 you don’t keep him in the two slot day after day to fail again and again. Hoping he will pull out of it. That is the grossest stupidity. Bat him somewhere else and if he pulls out of it move him back. Same with Gorman in the 3 slot. Management is not even trying to win these games.
For example, you have a runner on first with no outs in a tie game and you really need that run. But your batter is hitting under .200 and second on the team in strike outs, what do you do? You have him bunt the guy to second. There is no question about that. If you value the win, that is what you do. If you do not value the win, you say a hail Mary and let him take his feeble cuts and meekly ground into a DP.
Yeah it’s definitely past time to at least shuffle the line up.
The starting pitching outside of Gray looks like it’s going to be bang on average.
Better figure out a way to score a lot more runs or 81-81 might be the ceiling for this year’s edition.
A ton of folks on here were for trading Goldschmidt last year for value. Now what’s he worth?
Two Snicker Bars and a Coke.
Yeah it’s definitely past time to at least shuffle the line up.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/team/stats/_/name/stl
Here is a comprehensive list of the Cardinals hitting stats. Our pitching wasn’t great, but it was good enough to win all 3 games in Phoenix. We scored 5 runs on bombs Friday but the rest of the weekend was pathetic. This group is big on stats, so why wouldn’t you change the lineup based on the offensive failures in the first 16 games.
Donovan
Winn
Noot
Contreras
Herrera
Gorman
Goldy
Arenado
ScottGotta find a way to play Herrera as long as Scott is a zero and Goldy and Arenado aren’t far behind. Walker earns a spot on the bench until the vets wake up. I know this won’t happen, but it should.
Offensive Performance Review:
Wildly Exceeding Expectations: None
Exceeding Some Expectations: Donovan, Winn, Herrera
Meeting Expectations: Contreras, Siani (we knew Siani would be a bad hitter, so a .550 OPS counts as meeting expectations for him).
Below Expectations: Gorman, Arenado, Walker, Burleson
Well Below Expectations: Goldschmidt, Crawford, Scott (I was pretty sure Scott would be bad, but he hasn’t even been Adam Wainwright good as a hitter – Wainwright ran a .510 OPS for his career).
Too early to tell: Carpenter, Nootbaar
Just Does Not Matter: Pages
Also, just for context . . .
If we promoted Chase Davis, who we drafted as our #1 overall pick in 2024, to MLB today from Low A, how good do you think he would do as a MLB hitter? Now consider this, Chase Davis is 6 months older than Jordan Walker and 4 months older than Masyn Winn.
I like the way Donovan, Nootbaar and Burleson compete when they have two strikes on them. Some of the players seem to go down feebly, too often, when they have two strikes.
@Nathan Leopold Jr wrote:
I would simply like to know who decided Burleson would be a fine hitter?
Good question. From what I can gather, @Shady, Jim Edmonds, and Ricky Horton have solely annoited him as the next Ted Williams.
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