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March 14, 2019 at 9:36 am #83904
Here are the specifics for 2019 and 2020.
March 14, 2019 at 11:07 am #83905One of the more important functions of a union is to provide job security for its members. In some cases the union will require that the employer hire back employees who have been laid off prior to allowing new personnel to be hired. Sometimes the union will limit the number of job applicants that will be accepted into the union. I don’t see how this can work with baseball. I don’t see how you can guarantee a job to a 32 year old player just because his stats are just as good, or better, than a lower paid prospect. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
March 14, 2019 at 11:35 am #83906Bad day for LOOGYs and a good day for backup catchers.
March 14, 2019 at 4:58 pm #83928I wish they would have left the 40 max call-up in September and restricted each day's active player count to 28. As Bruce Bochy notes, the chosen approach hurts prospects' MLB chances. https://t.co/RCcdAxX5cn
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 14, 2019
March 14, 2019 at 6:29 pm #839291982 willie
ParticipantI don’t mind most of the changes though there are a few I don’t like. I don’t like them limiting the September call ups, doesn’t make sense to me. cutting trades off at july 31, im not a big fan of though it doesn’t really bother me that much. I do like that they moved the injured list back to 15 days. teams were exploiting the ten day list too much. you cant give teams anything without them doing that.
March 15, 2019 at 6:30 am #83940I hate the 3 batter min for pitchers just a STUPID change IMHO, sometimes you can tell a pitcher doesn’t have it and now you let the other team get to pound him for 3 hitters just STUPID!!!!
March 18, 2019 at 11:40 am #84106I like these proposals……subscription required.
March 26, 2019 at 9:05 am #84704In the last week, Major League Baseball teams have guaranteed more than $1 billion to 10 players via contract extensions. Five of those deals — Mike Trout, Chris Sale, Jacob deGrom, Paul Goldschmidt and Alex Bregman — were for nine figures. The total spent: $1,073,000,000.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) March 26, 2019
March 26, 2019 at 12:17 pm #84716The main takeaway I have from this is that there needs to be a payroll floor. I would propose $100M.
Players criticism in offseason spending validated by huge disparity in 2019 MLB payrolls; three teams are over $200 million payroll while eight teams are under $100 million. https://t.co/IgIpRSWUmW
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) March 26, 2019
March 26, 2019 at 12:31 pm #84721Ben Frederickson states this very eloquently in his P-D chat today:
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Future of big FA winter signings has come to an end it seems. I think that is a good news for baseball in general. It was never fair for teams in a small market to give into owners with deep pockets. I am sure big market teams will continue to try to sign big FA when they become available . It was nice to see how teams are starting to lock up young and old star players to long term contracts. I think this will lead to teams continuing to develop their young players and locking them up for long terms. Yours comments is appreciated . Thank youAnswer:
It’s good news for the owners. And it’s definitely good news for the Cardinals, considering one area they have struggled in (free agency) is becoming less appealing to talented players. And, if a player gets an extension he’s happy with, it’s good news for him, in that sense. I think, overall, the players are going to need to examine ways to make free agency valuable again, for players beyond the in-their-prime superstars. The extensions being handed out are team friendly if the players who are getting them continue to perform. I know that sounds crazy to think about with Trout, but he likely would have made more in a free-agent setting. Now, that might not be the most important thing to him. He was happy. Now he as security. Good for him. I’d do the exact same thing. But what players must also realize is that all salaries stack off of previous salaries. So, if Trout makes X per season over the course of the extension, that number will be a ceiling for other players. It’s business. The owners tend to have the upper hand. The players get their only real leverage when free-agency occurs, and it’s never been such a turn-off. Another interesting note is that the big-market teams are also turning a cold shoulder toward free agency. That’s how the Padres get Machado, for example.BenFred
March 26, 2019 at 5:35 pm #84738I dont agree. The salary a guy signs 1-2 years in advance of free agency doesnt set the ceiling for FAs. Everyone understands that their is a discount if for no other reason then the team takes on a couple of years of performance and injury risk. Owners know it. Agents know it. The union knows it. Informed players know it.
March 26, 2019 at 10:50 pm #84745Trout has already banked $80M…. and ‘now he has security’. I don’t get what causes a guy to say something that dumb.
March 27, 2019 at 8:00 am #84759Anyone excited that 26-man rosters in 2020 will mean more opportunity for prospects got played in a shell game brilliantly executed by MLB and agreed to by the MLBPA. Once again, the accountants are the winners and prospects are the losers. (free) https://t.co/W2m5wxbv9n pic.twitter.com/8aFfXpWm76
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 27, 2019
March 27, 2019 at 9:05 am #84770I thought everyone knew this was to keep prospect service time down. I never thought of it in any other terms.
March 27, 2019 at 9:32 am #84772CC, you are more knowledgeable than many fans.
The owners motives are clear, but they couldn’t have done it without MLBPA support. What bothers me the most is that the union again sells prospects out for their own members’ benefit.
March 27, 2019 at 10:15 am #84776Good lord the MLBPA is either completely incompetent or they lack any kind of code of ethics to keep supporting rules that penalize players.
March 27, 2019 at 11:34 am #84784BHC – they hope it will help veterans. That is who they care about.
March 27, 2019 at 11:51 am #84786That’s why we have a DH too right?
March 27, 2019 at 12:44 pm #84787Great article Brian. And just when we thought the owners weren’t cheapskates?
March 27, 2019 at 9:53 pm #84821I think it makes sense to require teams to
win with the players that got them to where they are rather than with a whole slew of players that the average fan never heard of.Using round numbers that say a major league ball player gets about $100K per month, then the cost of adding a player for the season would be $600K, add to that 2 months @ $100K for the two players brought up for September, and the total cost for the changes is $800K. Of course, if the cost for that 26th player was greater than $100K per month, the total cost would be greater than $800K. If a team would increase their roster by 10 for September, that would cost $1,000,000.
The benefit for the union is that they get another one of their members on the clock,
plus they keep 8 or more minor league prospects who are looking for a major league job out of sight and out of mind until next spring.March 29, 2019 at 9:19 am #84952March 29, 2019 at 9:24 am #84953MLB salaries: Middle class is disappearing in baseball https://t.co/x1Ilm5yAIM
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) March 28, 2019
March 29, 2019 at 9:58 am #84962How do you define collusion?
March 29, 2019 at 10:31 am #84969NJ315
ParticipantIs not collusion is one of the side effects of capitalism
March 29, 2019 at 12:10 pm #84986Who said anything about collusion?
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