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However it turns out, we should not be trading, or as some have suggested, release him. The former would provide little value in return, and the latter makes no sense at all. As long as his velocity and stuff remains good, he has 2 more option years remaining
I hope the shoulder issues did affect him, because his rehab tour in 2018 was lights out. What did he have, 9 straight strikeouts? Also, a part of me wants to say he may be a person who tries to play through injury. I wonder if he felt any twinges during 2018 rehab. He may have been very frustrated and ignored some injury signs. Purely speculation on my part.
I agree with your comment Minuteman3. Surely to Pugs he will be healthy coming into ST next February.
But if he comes in with another ailment or injury, or suffers one during ST, well, probably time to just point him to the door.
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Spring Training is important to Reyes, but that applies to a lot of players. Any decision time on Reyes likely occurs in 2021 in his last option year.
Plenty of pitchers have had their careers ruined by injury, never to have any chance to reach their potential because they can’t stay healthy at all. There have been some others, however, you have managed to come back and have relatively productive careers.
Very true. One that comes to mind is Jason Isringhausen. He started out as a phenom starter with the Mets and was going to be the next Tom Seaver. Injuries derailed him for a couple of years but he bounced back as a reliever and had a very good career. He is a Cardinal Hall of Famer.
Another guy like that is Hall of Famer Jim Palmer. He had a good rookie year at age 20, then missed most of the next two years. He came back after that and had along and productive career as one of the best pitchers in base all for the decade of the 70s.
While I am not counting on Reyes, it is interesting to look at Zack Wheeler. He missed a couple of seasons, but has bounced back nicely the last few years. I also hope they don’t trade Reyes because when the Kyle Gibsons of the baseball world get 3 years and 30 mill there is an obvious shortcoming of quality starters.
If Martinez is to return to the rotation. Why not convert him to a bullpen arm for 2020. It isn’t like we aren’t in need of someone to fill that roll.
Innings pitched for Alex Reyes at the big league level:
2016: 46
2017: 0
2018: 4
2019: 3I’m not saying we give up on him but there should be no expectations.
The first big test for Reyes is…Can he get out of ST without season ending surgery. I’d put the odds at 50/50.
Which is why they should think about him and convert him to a late inning guy.
Poncedeleon would be the other guy I’d consider. I think he’s got a closers make up.
I’m just saying it would be a nice surprise/bonus. Seems like such a waste of ace like talent.
I’d say 25/75 that Reyes reaches anything close to his full potential. But if he does…. what a surprising bonus. It would be extra special if he can pitch without breaking down.
I feel that there’s a chance that Reyes will be helpful to the Cards, whether in the rotation or the bullpen.
I’d like to hear what other reader’s thoughts are about that.
I’d also like to hear, if he was still eligible, where you would place Reyes on the Card’s top-prospects list?
It’s really difficult to make any kind of projection for Alex Reyes because of his propensity for injury. But if we just throw that out and assume he will be healthy and able to pitch up to his ability, then I would rank him No. 1 as a prospect. I think he should be in the bullpen. He could be used for long relief where a starter can’t make it past 4 or 5 innings. Reyes could be brought in for the last 4 or 5 innings to complete the game. Nobody wants to talk about a healthy Alex Reyes because of all the disappointments. But if he could stay healthy all season, that could have a profound impact on the coming season and postseason. This player was the number one prospect in the game for a reason.
If CMart is going to the rotation I would like to see Reyes be given a shot in the bullpen. We are going to need all of the help we can get until Hicks comes back.
I would probably rank Reyes between 20 and 30. He still has high end potential, albeit unfulfilled, but age is starting to become an issue if he were still labeled a prospect.
If I was ranking Reyes now, I’d probably have him in the top 10, maybe 5th or 6th. He still has all the potential in the world, but the injuries have really sapped all his momentum and you wonder if the stuff will take a tick back coming off the persistent shoulder injuries. Still, even if he sits more 93-94 than 96-97 coming back (which I have no idea, maybe he’s still got the velocity) he would still have enough with the two plus breaking pitches to be a mid rotation starter, and more upside than anyone but Thompson IMO.
Because Rats regularly asks about Reyes…
What Mark said. I would add that the vast majority of the 40-man roster players, including Reyes, are scheduled to appear at #stlcards Winter Warm-Up in less than three weeks. At that point, we will be able to ask Reyes directly how he is progressing in his latest rehab. https://t.co/qOj1udvMVa
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 29, 2019
Thanks for reading my mind, Mr. Walton. I was at the Springs Valley holiday tourney this weekend and somebody mentioned a Hispanic woman and said something about the name Reyes. That triggered my thoughts about Alex Reyes so I was going to find this thread and ask again.
I am glad others realize how important Mr. Reyes could be to the team. Sometimes I think I am the only one that realizes what a HUGE loss Rick Ankiel was to Cardinal pitching for 15+ years.
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Rats, there have been many pitchers that ended up getting hurt that have affected the team over the years. Some would have made a big difference. Others, a small difference. Ankiel was a mental “injury” but he had the potential to be an elite pitcher. So does Reyes although I am starting to lose hope in him.
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