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March 3, 2025 at 6:45 pm #277303
Last time I looked at a roster with the potential firepower as this one, Mike Jorgenson was the Cardinal manager.
March 4, 2025 at 6:51 am #277306Split squad Tuesday as both games are televised.
McGreevy at Nats (FanDuel)
Pallante vs. Mets (ESPN)March 4, 2025 at 8:01 am #277308
jj-cf-stlParticipantGlad to have an ESPN broadcast (if not blacked out) but I’d rather it be the McGreevy start. Take what’s offered, I guess 🤞
March 4, 2025 at 9:06 am #277309Well I’m the opposite. I hate the ESPN games as they are blacked out for me and I’m not paying for their services where I may watch a handful of events per year with them.
March 4, 2025 at 1:10 pm #277311Hopefully it is precautionary but Jordan Walker removed from his game due to knee pain.
Cardinals pitchers have looked good in both games so far. Pallante, McGreevy, Liberatore and Helsley
Have one game on the TV and the other on my phone.
March 4, 2025 at 1:55 pm #277312Someone needs to get Gastelum on a meat, taters, and beans diet. He looks so thin especially in the thighs.
March 4, 2025 at 2:54 pm #277313
jj-cf-stlParticipantOutfield looked good in the Pallante start, especially Scott and Koperniak. Nado golfed a low ball out, easy swing.
First time I’ve seen Hence and they couldn’t center him. Choppy ground balls and a couple line drives. A dozen or so batters, due to errors, but i don’t remember the ball leaving the infield.
March 4, 2025 at 8:14 pm #277314This was a really interesting video from Baseball America. I am curious if the reason STL still has Wetherholt in camp is they view him as a potential July callup for 3B like BA says could be an option. If they do, then please start getting him reps at 3B now in ST and in the minors rather than at the MLB level.
March 4, 2025 at 8:37 pm #277317If that was the plan, why wouldn’t they have him on the back fields playing 3B RIGHT NOW? Why was he playing SS in early camp and is still at the position? (BTW, I agree 100% that he should be playing at his ultimate position ASAP.)
IMO, they should be giving the spring SS at-bats to the candidates to be Winn’s reserve. We go into this in the podcast to be posted in the morning.
P.S. It also implies that Arenado will magically disappear, but I won’t even get into what I think the odds are of that happening by mid-season…
March 5, 2025 at 7:34 am #277320Here is the #STLCards lineup for today’s game against the #Astros in West Palm Beach. Sonny Gray makes his first game start of Spring Training. pic.twitter.com/5lNvElXUxr
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) March 5, 2025
March 5, 2025 at 9:13 am #277322Uh oh on the Walker injury. The Cards released anything more informative yet?
March 5, 2025 at 9:42 am #277324He stepped on a sprinkler head, hurting his knee. No imaging results yet.
March 5, 2025 at 9:45 am #277326Yeah I agree with your questions Brian and comments. I was surprised they mentioned Wetherholt potentially this year as I was thinking 2026 he breaks camp with the club. On Arenado, I do think they really need to find a trade partner at the deadline or this offseason. As time goes on, his salary each year decreases and he should get easier to trade. Hopefully he can perform well this year to up that trade value as well.
March 5, 2025 at 10:00 am #277327A sprinkler head? Wow the Cards should make the Nats pay his salary if he ends up being out. I hate seeing injuries due to poorly maintained fields.
March 5, 2025 at 10:07 am #277328I don’t know if the field is poorly maintained, but one would think sprinkler heads should drop down out of the way when not in use. I do know that the entire field was replaced during the off-season. So maybe this is a by product of that.
March 5, 2025 at 2:28 pm #277330While its early, kind of under the radar JoJo Romero has been lights out this spring…hopefully this post is not the kiss of death and he gives up 10 runs his next time out
March 5, 2025 at 4:35 pm #277331Just an observation/opinion, could be my imagination….but I thought Gorman looked different at 3B than he does at 2B. He is, after all, a third baseman even though he’s been playing second base since he reached the majors.
March 6, 2025 at 7:43 am #277335Lars Nootbaar is in CF, Victor Scott is in LF and Michael Helman is in RF today when the #STLCards host the #Nats. RHP Erick Fedde faces off against his former #WhiteSox teammate Mike Soroka. pic.twitter.com/9PlGyR2944
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) March 6, 2025
March 6, 2025 at 7:57 am #27733712 Spring Training Games in . . . Highlights and Lowlights:
Highlights:
Yordelin Pena is running a 5.000 OPS. That’s max that you can get. 1 at bat. 1 home run. I’ve had this guy as an honorable mention to my Top 50 the last 2 years. I’ve heard lots of good things, especially about his power. And now it’s just fun having a player with a 5.000 OPS.
Luken Baker is another guy I’ve been relatively high on for years. I love watching him when I go to games in Memphis. He is just a behemoth. He now has 3 homers. I hope he makes the team this year. He would have been so much more useful as a right handed bench option last year vs signing Matt Carpenter who was redundant at everything we already had on the team and left-handed. No offense to Matt because I love Matt. But bring on Luken the Giant and let him play.
Victor Scott continues to rake. 12 at bats. 7 hits including a double, triple, and homer. 3 walks. And 4 steals.
Matt Koperniak has 5 hits in 16 at bats including a home run. He’s doing a good job showing he can be a 4th or 5th outfielder.
Jose Barrero has 3 hits in 11 at bats, but 2 of those went over the wall. Plus, he’s played really solid defense. This was a great pick-up. I’m starting to suspect he makes the team. There’s even a chance he’s a starter.
The pitching in general has been really, really exciting. Aside from a few innings where some pitchers have fallen apart, the pitching has been overall very effective. And there’s a laundry list of guys who look to have had improvement in their stuff overall. Lots of strikeouts and weak contact results. I’ve said it again and again to whoever will listen, our pitching will be much better this season that it was last season if they don’t trade Helsley. I’m not as sure about the hitting side. It might be better. But it also could be worse.
Lowlights:
Most of the presumed starting position players . . . Here are their names and OPS’s:
Siani: .246
Walker: .348
Gorman: .356
Donovan: .426
Burleson: .594
That’s over half the starting lineup with what would be completely unacceptable OPS levels. Throw in Pages at .580 and it’s 2/3 of the lineup when he’s at catcher. Things may change though. Note the above sections entitled Victor Scott and Jose Barrero as possible usurpers.Pallante still didn’t look right in his last start even though the overall results were better.
I didn’t watch Sonny Gray yesterday, but he did get beat up in the box score. I’m interesting to hear anyone else’s take on that.
Don’t read much into any of this. It’s still just the first half of Spring training. The offense has started to look a little better lately with guys taking better at-bats.
March 6, 2025 at 8:31 am #277360
jj-cf-stlParticipantContraras 3rd, Arenado 4th when both start, seems to be Oli’s go-to so far this spring.
March 6, 2025 at 11:06 am #277365Last year Jordan Walker crushed Dylan Carlson in a spring training collision.
This year Walker steps on a sprinkler head. Good grief you can’t make this stuff up.
If Vince Coleman is in camp he better look out for that tarp.
March 6, 2025 at 11:26 am #277367The #stlcards Spring Breakout Game roster includes 17 members of The Cardinal Nation's Top Prospect List, led by the top two, SS JJ Wetherholt and LHS Quinn Mathews. See who is included and who is not in my free article. https://t.co/lrDwSGk6RV pic.twitter.com/dHPzuwjd0N
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 6, 2025
March 7, 2025 at 12:38 pm #277385#STLCards lineup vs. #Astros pic.twitter.com/JLpjGXaXZY
— 101 ESPN St. Louis (@101espn) March 7, 2025
March 7, 2025 at 9:22 pm #277391
stlcard25ParticipantCatchers doing the damage tonight. Nice to see.
March 8, 2025 at 12:07 am #277394Yankees may be in the market for a starting pitcher
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