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June 25, 2023 at 7:54 am #225441
6:15 p.m.
RHP Adam Wainwright (3-2, 6.56) vs. RHP J.P. France (2-3, 3.54)
BSM // KMOX // WIJR
(and Bally Sports South/Southwest)June 28, 2023 at 7:04 am #225715Hey Rat, catching up on yesterday’s postings, I see you are a Triumph man.
I rode a Daytona around the world back in the day!
June 29, 2023 at 3:06 am #225838Got to win.
June 29, 2023 at 3:37 am #225839CIF,
I responded about the Triumph in yesterday’s thread.June 29, 2023 at 4:07 am #225840I didn’t know you are a Triumph fan, Rat……how cool is that!
June 29, 2023 at 5:18 am #225841I last had a bike 40 years ago, was a Norton. It was awesome when it was running. Gave it up when I got married.
June 29, 2023 at 5:34 am #225843The rest of the Division is opening a gap between them and us. The Pirates are 5 back in 4th place and we are 9 back in 5th. Its like being a lap down in a nascar race. It is tantalizing to win a few, but all it does is get us on the same lap for a while, still way back and still eating dust. Then they go by us again and we’re back to a lap down.
June 29, 2023 at 7:12 am #225848Sorry Rat, I posted the Triumph comment on the wrong thread the first time around and didn’t know how to delete it.
I’m still in second grade at computer school.June 29, 2023 at 7:43 am #225856Neat seeing former fellow drivers such as myself. While Cardinal In France was a Daytona man and Rat a Triumph, I owned a Harley back in the day for only about 2 years before I struck a tree, fortunately only sustaining a few facial stitches and a broken left arm.
This France fellow frightens me and this game tonight is so darn pivotal. Such a difficult game to predict. To bet on this particular game would be totally foolish. But I’m going with my heart and calling this one 5-3 Birds with Tommy Edman finding the cheap seats with bat in hand.
June 29, 2023 at 8:26 am #225857We need to somehow get Wainwright to 200 wins so he can retire – well, get an ‘injury’ for the balance of the season and ride off into the sunset.
He really should have gone out last year with Molina.
We can dumpster dive for a guy to start for the rest of the year and have an ERA a run less. That won’t be good but it will be less painful than watching Wainwright struggle.
June 29, 2023 at 8:44 am #225860Age related issues accumulate over time. In Wainwright’s case he was doing ok last year and suddenly went off a cliff late in the season. He is still over the cliff this season and it is even worse. That kind of seems more like a specific physical problem more than just age catching up to him. I wonder if the mystery mechanics problem that all the coaches standing right there didn’t see was just a smoke screen. If so, then it will not get better and will keep getting worse.
June 29, 2023 at 9:43 am #225864Pugs, I am NOT a Triumph guy. Never had one. I have had three Harley-Davidson’s over the years. And if I ever decide to get another, which I doubt, I suspect it might be a Triumph.
And let me make a suggestion here. Since the Redbirds are so worthless this year instead of game threads why don’t we just have Din-Din threads instead? They might be more entertaining.
r/Esteemed Rat
June 29, 2023 at 9:58 am #225866BenFred: Unsolicited advice for Cardinals legend Adam Wainwright in battle vs. Father Time https://t.co/XrW8BUlJxX
— STLToday Sports News (@STL_SportsNews) June 29, 2023
June 29, 2023 at 11:03 am #225871Wainwright’s case is a common one. Most anyone who’s fortunate enough to have grown long in the tooth is aware that when the reflexes and stamina of youth disappear, they disappear almost overnight. I vividly recall playing a session of catch with my son right about the time I turned 50. Less than six months prior to that time, I was perfectly fine and could still get out there with him and pretend I could still glove and sling the baseball. Not this time. I was immediately saddled with the overwhelming sensation that I could very possibly be hurt. You know, the type of hurt that would require a trip to the emergency room or multiple visits to a dental surgeon. I simply no longer possessed enough faith in my reflexes or hand to eye skills to be confident that I wouldn’t be conked on the coconut or smacked in the mug by a hardball that was being rocketed in my direction at jaw level by a strong and healthy 27 year old man…I had to tell him to dial it down a little bit and that’s not at all an ego booster. It’s more what I’d term a moment of truth…Haha! When it goes, it goes in a hurry.
June 29, 2023 at 12:13 pm #225878As bad as that game was last night you’d think it would stand out, but those types of endings have been countless this season and I’ve grown accustomed to them. I also noticed that the box score claimed a little over 41,000 in attendance to see the commonplace collapse. I counted 21,392…
June 29, 2023 at 1:15 pm #225880Marmol and Blake certainly aren’t LaRussa and Duncan but they were still given a crap sandwich pitching staff by the front office.
Pitching problems abound for STL. After coughing up a 7-5 lead on Wed, the #STLCards have lost 25 games in which they held a lead. Only the #Royals (29) #As (26) have more such losses.
Only the #Rockies (6.51) & #Reds (5.91) have worse starter ERAs than STL (4.85) in the NL.
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) June 29, 2023
June 29, 2023 at 1:36 pm #225884Yeah, I agree that this entire staff is an inferior one, but it’s basically the same as last season.
June 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm #225890Sorry Rat…. thought I had read somewhere that you were a diehard Triumph owner. You know, the more I think about tonight’s game the more bullish I become. So much so that just the sight of anything red gets me all amped up. Even on the way home tonight when I was the lead dog coming up to a red traffic light, I carefully checked to make sure no cars we crossing as I approached the red light and when there were no cars, I just rammed right on through the rascals. I say we let bygones be bygones in regards to last night’s debacle and get ready to cheer our boys on to victory this evening. And as an added bonus, take a wild guess who’s going to be riding high and wild in the PBP saddle this evening? I see we’ve had nary a din-din report thus far, so I’ll break the ice. On my way home I picked up some bone-in chicken wings with no sauce (ranch on the side) from Red Robbin and then I swung through the drive thru at Popeyes and grabbed 3 apple cinnamon pies.
June 29, 2023 at 4:27 pm #225891Yeah, I agree that this entire staff is an inferior one, but it’s basically the same as last season.
Same manager too.
But no Molina and Maddux.
June 29, 2023 at 4:32 pm #225892Yeah, they really like this manager. We’ve been told he’s doing amazing things. I tend to agree.
June 29, 2023 at 4:47 pm #225893Ollie a little slow getting the lineup posted.
June 29, 2023 at 4:54 pm #225894Donovan 2B
Goldy 1B
Nootbaar RF
Arenado DH
Contreras C
Walker LF
Gorman 3B
DeJong SS
Edman CFJune 29, 2023 at 6:19 pm #225895A well played game would be nice. Including passable pitching. No baserunning blunders. Good defense.
June 29, 2023 at 6:20 pm #225896There is Edman with his Bader impersonation out if CF on Altuve’s can-o-corn.
June 29, 2023 at 6:33 pm #225897I just looked up Altuve’s game logs from his debut season in 2011 in which he was called up on July 20th of that year. He had two 3 hit games against the Cardinals in a 4 game series of which were only the 5th through 8th games of his Big League career. After looking at those logs on BR, I recall watching those games and thinking to myself, “This little guy looks pretty good.”…Haha!
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