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June 19, 2019 at 3:08 pm #95014
stlcard25ParticipantHard to say what it might take for those guys. But I’d bet that Ralston as a senior didn’t get anything close to his slot value.
June 19, 2019 at 10:18 pm #95072C27, I have only $163K extra remaining. I put my math on the members board the other day. If you get a chance, please take a look and let me know where we differ. Thanks.
June 20, 2019 at 12:00 am #95114If we have 163K remaining the 150K gives us 313K. McFarland was ranked 186 by Baseball America. The 186th, sixth round slot is for around 260K. However, he was ranked 115th by MLB Pipeline. That slot goes for over 460K He is committed to Miami. Would be close depending how much he wants his professional career to get going.
Brian, does your 163K include the 5% overage?
June 20, 2019 at 12:06 am #95115As I recall none of our late round reaches have been successful. Kilichowski is the only one I remember. Who were the others.
June 20, 2019 at 12:16 am #95116Time for a refresher:
Players in BOLD will indicate the players that have signed.
2019 Cardinals Draft Picks
ROUND (#) | NAME | POSITION | PROJECTED BONUS (SIGNED AMOUNT) | DATE SIGNED1 (19), Zack Thompson, LHP, $3,359,000 ($3,000,000), 06/11/2019
2 (58), Trejyn Fletcher, CF, $1,214,300 ($1,500,000), 06/12/2019
3 (96), Tony Locey, RHP, $604,800 ($604,000), 06/12/2019
4 (125), Andre Pallante, RHP, $455,600 ($455,600), 06/19/2019
5 (155), Connor Thomas, LHP, $340,000 ($340,000), 06/11/2019
6 (185), Pedro Pages, C, $261,600 ($250,000), 06/12/2019
7 (215), Jack Ralston, RHP, $204,800 (???), 06/19/2019
8 (245), Logan Gragg, RHP, $167,800 ($167,800), 06/14/2019
9 (275), Todd Lott, OF, $152,000 ($152,000), 06/11/2019
10 (305), Jake Sommers, RHP, $143,600 ($10,000), 06/10/2019BONUS POOL………………………………………….$6,903,500
BONUS POOL PLUS 5%…………………………………..$7,248,675
SUBTOTAL……………………………………………$6,480,200
Above Slot (Round 11-40)……………………………..$400,000
REMAINING POOL………………………………………$23,300
REMAINING POOL PLUS 5%……………………………….$368,475Draft Picks in Rounds 11-40 can sign for $125,000. Anything over that goes against Draft Signing Bonus Pool.
ROUND (#) | NAME | POSITION | (SIGNED AMOUNT) | DATE SIGNED
11 (335), Connor Lunn, RHP, 06/19/2019
12 (365), Patrick Romeri, RF, ($200,000), 06/10/2019
13 (395), Tommy Jew, CF
14 (425), Tyler Statler, ($300,000), RHP, 06/14/2019
15 (455), David Vinsky, OF, ($100,000), 06/11/2019
16 (485), Thomas Hart, RHP, ($200,000), 06/16/2019
17 (515), Michael YaSenka, RHP, 06/14/2019
18 (545), Aaron Antonini, C, 06/12/2019
19 (575), Zarion Sharpe, LHP
20 (605), Adrian Mardueno, RHP, 06/12/2019
21 (635), Jack Owen, LHP
22 (665), Zade Richardson, C, ($200,000), 06/16/2019
23 (695), Brylie Ware, 3B, 06/10/2019
24 (725), Will Guay, RHP, 06/10/2019
25 (755), Alexander McFarlane, RHP
26 (785), Jeremy Randolph, RHP, 06/14/2019
27 (815), Eric Lex, RHP, 06/16/2019
28 (845), Tyler Peck, RHP, 06/12/2019
29 (875), Scott Politz, RHP, 06/11/2019
30 (905), Cameron Dulle, RHP, 06/10/2019
31 (935), Dylan Pearce, RHP, 06/16/2019
32 (965), Chandler Redman, 2B, 06/10/2019
33 (995), Anthony Green, RHP, 06/11/2019
34 (1025), Ben Baird, SS, 06/11/2019
35 (1055), Logan Hoffman, RHP
36 (1085), Kyle Skeels, C, 06/11/2019
37 (1115), Chris Newell, LHP
38 (1145), Kurtis Byrne, C
39 (1175), T.J. McKenzie, SS
40 (1205), Cash Rugely, SSJune 20, 2019 at 7:19 am #95117Sooner, yes, the 5% is included. It is the bottom line number as I calculate it. The details are on the Draft thread on the Members board, along with other info I shared with subscribers.
I don’t understand where the $150K you are adding in came from.
Last year, I analyzed the post-10th rounders who received high bonuses. As you note, it is not a good story. See link below.
As an aside, 2018 was the first year in a long time they did not do this, but they are back to it in 2019. I asked Flores about last year and he said it was not a change in strategy, but it was how that particular group of top 10 rounders played out (using the extra bonus money).
June 20, 2019 at 7:46 am #95119Brian, I see it now. What Ralston signed for, if less than slot plus $160k.
June 20, 2019 at 8:10 am #95123
stlcard25ParticipantThe 13th and 19th rounders have not yet signed, looks like. Would they be guys who get some of the extra bonus money? Seems like maybe they get those two and a slight chance to pluck the LHP from Auburn once his season ends. If not, maybe they can sign the #35 or #40 guys.
June 20, 2019 at 8:18 am #9512614NyquisT
ParticipantI can see the bottom four (all 18 years old) opting for next year’s draft and higher round selections.
June 20, 2019 at 2:33 pm #95166Brina’s piece on late round bonus picks is very telling. I’m fine with taking a chance with a lottery ticket once in awhile. But, all things considered, it is a waste of money, just like a real lottery ticket. You get the thrill of ‘maybe I’ll get lucky’ even though the reality is that you never do. I’d rather see them pool whatever excess money they can put together, and divvy it up among the players who got drafted after the 10th round.
June 20, 2019 at 2:51 pm #95168I thought bonus pool money was only applied after the first $150,000.
June 20, 2019 at 3:33 pm #95172They could wait until the draft is over, then divvy it up but call it something else other than bonus.
June 20, 2019 at 5:17 pm #95183I’ll take a stab and say Pallante signed for slot money, Ralston signed under, and Lunn signed for over $$$, thus making it a wash. Just a guess, though.
June 20, 2019 at 7:30 pm #95198I’ll take a stab and say Pallante signed for slot money, Ralston signed under, and Lunn signed for over $$$, thus making it a wash. Just a guess, though.
I’ve already included Pallante’s bonus amount in the chart.
I thought bonus pool money was only applied after the first $150,000.
Sooner, it’s not $150k. It’s $125K.
June 21, 2019 at 8:42 pm #953767th-rd @MLBDraft pick Jack Ralston signs w/@Cardinals for full pick value ($204.8K). @UCLABaseball RS Jr was very consistent starter for Bruins. FB-CB combo works, CB misses bats. Perhaps future reliever. Cards Draft: https://t.co/fKYDpCgteL
— Jonathan Mayo (@JonathanMayo) June 22, 2019
June 21, 2019 at 9:17 pm #95378With Ralston signing the Cardinals have $163,675 remaining plus $125K to sign any of the remaining picks. I could see them signing Jew and Owen but that’s probably about it. I don’t seeing them able to sign any of the HS kids. Maybe the two Juco guys but doubt it.
June 21, 2019 at 10:23 pm #95388In the 2018 draft Jaden Hill was the highly regarded high school prospect that didn’t want to sign. He’s been having elbow problems for most of the 2019 season.
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_2795328a-83e5-11e9-a711-2ba8047f190f.html
June 25, 2019 at 11:49 am #95658
stlcard25ParticipantIf anyone wants to track the stats of the draftees, this site covers that. It seems like it might be a bit delayed for now, as I know that Fletcher played yesterday. You can check on previous years as well, if you’re interested.
https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/prospects/stats/draft-statistics/2019?dateRange=Year2019
June 25, 2019 at 2:27 pm #95713Good to see the Ralston signing.
June 26, 2019 at 7:13 pm #95887Looks like Jack Owen is headed back to AU.
Jack Owen Back to AUJuly 1, 2019 at 4:56 pm #96517It appears that 31 out of 40 may be all that sign. I think it will turn out to be good draft, but time will tell.
July 4, 2019 at 10:35 am #96778Jew may still sign, Sharpe lower odds. Owen no.
July 4, 2019 at 10:36 am #96779What in the heck is “The Wacha Plan” and how does it apply to #stlcards top 2019 pitching draftees @zack_thompson25 and @LoceyTony32? I have all the info in this FREE article at The Cardinal Nation. Happy Fourth! pic.twitter.com/lkC47F7EEP
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) July 4, 2019
July 4, 2019 at 11:12 am #96789Barring injury, it seems like the pitchers selected in the first 11 rounds would start for either Peoria or Palm Beach in 2020. That would be up to 7 of 10 spots. I believe the 10th rounder is supposed to stay in the pen.
July 4, 2019 at 11:13 am #96790Romeri is off to good start.
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