2019 draft

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  • #95014
    stlcard25
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    Hard to say what it might take for those guys. But I’d bet that Ralston as a senior didn’t get anything close to his slot value.

    #95072
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    C27, I have only $163K extra remaining. I put my math on the members board the other day. If you get a chance, please take a look and let me know where we differ. Thanks.

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    If we have 163K remaining the 150K gives us 313K. McFarland was ranked 186 by Baseball America. The 186th, sixth round slot is for around 260K. However, he was ranked 115th by MLB Pipeline. That slot goes for over 460K He is committed to Miami. Would be close depending how much he wants his professional career to get going.

    Brian, does your 163K include the 5% overage?

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    As I recall none of our late round reaches have been successful. Kilichowski is the only one I remember. Who were the others.

    #95116
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    Time for a refresher:

    Players in BOLD will indicate the players that have signed.

    2019 Cardinals Draft Picks
    ROUND (#) | NAME | POSITION | PROJECTED BONUS (SIGNED AMOUNT) | DATE SIGNED

    1 (19), Zack Thompson, LHP, $3,359,000 ($3,000,000), 06/11/2019
    2 (58), Trejyn Fletcher, CF, $1,214,300 ($1,500,000), 06/12/2019
    3 (96), Tony Locey, RHP, $604,800 ($604,000), 06/12/2019
    4 (125), Andre Pallante, RHP, $455,600 ($455,600), 06/19/2019
    5 (155), Connor Thomas, LHP, $340,000 ($340,000), 06/11/2019
    6 (185), Pedro Pages, C, $261,600 ($250,000), 06/12/2019
    7 (215), Jack Ralston, RHP, $204,800 (???), 06/19/2019
    8 (245), Logan Gragg, RHP, $167,800 ($167,800), 06/14/2019
    9 (275), Todd Lott, OF, $152,000 ($152,000), 06/11/2019
    10 (305), Jake Sommers, RHP, $143,600 ($10,000), 06/10/2019

    BONUS POOL………………………………………….$6,903,500
    BONUS POOL PLUS 5%…………………………………..$7,248,675
    SUBTOTAL……………………………………………$6,480,200
    Above Slot (Round 11-40)……………………………..$400,000
    REMAINING POOL………………………………………$23,300
    REMAINING POOL PLUS 5%……………………………….$368,475

    Draft Picks in Rounds 11-40 can sign for $125,000. Anything over that goes against Draft Signing Bonus Pool.

    ROUND (#) | NAME | POSITION | (SIGNED AMOUNT) | DATE SIGNED
    11 (335), Connor Lunn, RHP, 06/19/2019
    12 (365), Patrick Romeri, RF, ($200,000), 06/10/2019

    13 (395), Tommy Jew, CF
    14 (425), Tyler Statler, ($300,000), RHP, 06/14/2019
    15 (455), David Vinsky, OF, ($100,000), 06/11/2019
    16 (485), Thomas Hart, RHP, ($200,000), 06/16/2019
    17 (515), Michael YaSenka, RHP, 06/14/2019
    18 (545), Aaron Antonini, C, 06/12/2019

    19 (575), Zarion Sharpe, LHP
    20 (605), Adrian Mardueno, RHP, 06/12/2019
    21 (635), Jack Owen, LHP
    22 (665), Zade Richardson, C, ($200,000), 06/16/2019
    23 (695), Brylie Ware, 3B, 06/10/2019
    24 (725), Will Guay, RHP, 06/10/2019

    25 (755), Alexander McFarlane, RHP
    26 (785), Jeremy Randolph, RHP, 06/14/2019
    27 (815), Eric Lex, RHP, 06/16/2019
    28 (845), Tyler Peck, RHP, 06/12/2019
    29 (875), Scott Politz, RHP, 06/11/2019
    30 (905), Cameron Dulle, RHP, 06/10/2019
    31 (935), Dylan Pearce, RHP, 06/16/2019
    32 (965), Chandler Redman, 2B, 06/10/2019
    33 (995), Anthony Green, RHP, 06/11/2019
    34 (1025), Ben Baird, SS, 06/11/2019

    35 (1055), Logan Hoffman, RHP
    36 (1085), Kyle Skeels, C, 06/11/2019
    37 (1115), Chris Newell, LHP
    38 (1145), Kurtis Byrne, C
    39 (1175), T.J. McKenzie, SS
    40 (1205), Cash Rugely, SS

    #95117
    Brian Walton
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    Sooner, yes, the 5% is included. It is the bottom line number as I calculate it. The details are on the Draft thread on the Members board, along with other info I shared with subscribers.

    I don’t understand where the $150K you are adding in came from.

    Last year, I analyzed the post-10th rounders who received high bonuses. As you note, it is not a good story. See link below.

    As an aside, 2018 was the first year in a long time they did not do this, but they are back to it in 2019. I asked Flores about last year and he said it was not a change in strategy, but it was how that particular group of top 10 rounders played out (using the extra bonus money).

    Cardinals Extra Spend on Late Picks Yet to Pay Off

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    Brian, I see it now. What Ralston signed for, if less than slot plus $160k.

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    The 13th and 19th rounders have not yet signed, looks like. Would they be guys who get some of the extra bonus money? Seems like maybe they get those two and a slight chance to pluck the LHP from Auburn once his season ends. If not, maybe they can sign the #35 or #40 guys.

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    I can see the bottom four (all 18 years old) opting for next year’s draft and higher round selections.

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    Brina’s piece on late round bonus picks is very telling. I’m fine with taking a chance with a lottery ticket once in awhile. But, all things considered, it is a waste of money, just like a real lottery ticket. You get the thrill of ‘maybe I’ll get lucky’ even though the reality is that you never do. I’d rather see them pool whatever excess money they can put together, and divvy it up among the players who got drafted after the 10th round.

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    I thought bonus pool money was only applied after the first $150,000.

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    They could wait until the draft is over, then divvy it up but call it something else other than bonus.

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    I’ll take a stab and say Pallante signed for slot money, Ralston signed under, and Lunn signed for over $$$, thus making it a wash. Just a guess, though.

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    I’ll take a stab and say Pallante signed for slot money, Ralston signed under, and Lunn signed for over $$$, thus making it a wash. Just a guess, though.

    I’ve already included Pallante’s bonus amount in the chart.

    I thought bonus pool money was only applied after the first $150,000.

    Sooner, it’s not $150k. It’s $125K.

    #95376
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    With Ralston signing the Cardinals have $163,675 remaining plus $125K to sign any of the remaining picks. I could see them signing Jew and Owen but that’s probably about it. I don’t seeing them able to sign any of the HS kids. Maybe the two Juco guys but doubt it.

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    In the 2018 draft Jaden Hill was the highly regarded high school prospect that didn’t want to sign. He’s been having elbow problems for most of the 2019 season.

    https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_2795328a-83e5-11e9-a711-2ba8047f190f.html

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    If anyone wants to track the stats of the draftees, this site covers that. It seems like it might be a bit delayed for now, as I know that Fletcher played yesterday. You can check on previous years as well, if you’re interested.

    https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/prospects/stats/draft-statistics/2019?dateRange=Year2019

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    Good to see the Ralston signing.

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    Looks like Jack Owen is headed back to AU.
    Jack Owen Back to AU

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    It appears that 31 out of 40 may be all that sign. I think it will turn out to be good draft, but time will tell.

    #96778
    Brian Walton
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    Jew may still sign, Sharpe lower odds. Owen no.

    #96779
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    Barring injury, it seems like the pitchers selected in the first 11 rounds would start for either Peoria or Palm Beach in 2020. That would be up to 7 of 10 spots. I believe the 10th rounder is supposed to stay in the pen.

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    Romeri is off to good start.

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