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  • #236826
    CardsFanInChiTown
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    Who do you folks think should be the “big ace” signing? I’m leaning Nola at this point….

    Alcantara is getting expensive as a trade target?

    #236830
    blingboy
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    No gold gloves. Quite a reversal.

    #236831
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    Tommy Edman deserved one.

    #236841
    14NyquisT
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    Riley O’Brien? Mo is off and running.

    #236842
    14NyquisT
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    O’Brien was far and away the Tacoma AAA best reliever. *th rd draft pick in ’17. 2.1 innings of MLB experience. RH 6’4″ 28 y.o. Middle name is Chun-Young….. assigned to Memphis and wear #84.

    #236843
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    Impending MiLB FA so presumably will get a 40 man slot.

    #236846
    14NyquisT
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    I would have said Craig Counsell but he just signed on with the Cubs.

    #236916
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    So to sum up the last 24 hours:

    The Cardinals are already backpedaling on their spending and pitching additions while the Cubs just hired the best manager available. What a great start to the offseason. 🙁

    #236922
    stlcard25
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    That’s a bad summary, gscottar. But…it’s accurate.

    #237112
    jj-cf-stl
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    What will BillyMo do…..

    #237137
    1982 willie
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    Well I would try to get the Japanese pitcher if I was being serious, Yamamoto, not sure the spelling. But the Cardinals aren’t going to spend the money to do that so I figure gray or nola. Personally I think their best years are probably behind them but cardinals like that kind of stuff. If they happen to have a couple good years, makes them look like geniuses.

    #237138
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    Rather than get into a bidding war going for a good starter in the $20-30 Million range, Mo might look to work a deal for a starter who already has such a contract in place, with a few years left, 2 or 3 maybe. The idea is that the value of the pitcher’s production is partially offset by the conract obligation that comes along with him. That reduces the value of the trade goods that Mo would part with. The trading partner would be an organization looking to reduce payroll, or get it under control, or redeploy payroll away from the rotation to meet other needs. Maybe somebody with luxury tax issues.

    #237141
    1982 willie
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    Gray would be a solid take though glasnow might be better depending on the deal. The only guy I see on top list i would stay away from for sure is snell. Just don’t trust him staying on the field. If they don’t get st least one of the top ten guys, I believe it’s just another down year. It might actually take 2 top tier pitchers but I doubt we are that serious.

    #237147
    bccran
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    Hope we don’t give up a high draft pick.

    #237148
    1982 willie
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    Giving up a high draft pick would depend on whose available in the draft and who we using that pick to get. Do we want to try to win now or just do what we did last season. We will see.

    #237150
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    Do we want to try to win now or just do what we did last season.

    What Mo has been saying suggests neither win now nor last place. What BillMo wants is to resume being good enough to compete for a berth in post season. BillMo just saw an 84 win team in the WS with a payroll of $125 Million. I don’t think he cares that a team with double that won it.

    #237158
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    The expanded playoff system has really changed roster construction, especially the pitching staff.

    Why spend the money on 4-5 great to good pitchers when you only need 2 once you get in the tournament? Why worry about winning 100 games when winning 85 will get you ‘in’?

    I guess that strategy will work as long as one of your stud pitchers doesn’t come up lame and some of the money saved on pitching goes into the line up so you can win your share of the 9-8 games…

    #237159
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    Last spring I had argued that it made more sense to wait until the deadline to acquire pitchers who are healthy then, rather than load up on them over the winter and hope they stay healthy all year. I still think there is merit in that tactic, but you have to not be in last place at the deadline.

    #237161
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    That is true bling. Those games the first four months of the season still count in the standings.

    #237162
    blingboy
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    Those games the first four months of the season still count in the standings.

    It is why I hate the “its a marathon” thing. I have never heard a first place team saying that, only losers. Winners know its 162 sprints in a row and they play like they know it.

    #237181
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    85-87 wins will usually get you into the tournament. After that you need 2 really good starters, a lights out bullpen, and for your offense to get hot. You can have the ’27 Yankees lineup but if they are having an off week you are done.

    The long haul of a 162 game regular season is irrelevant and remains in place only because of $$$.

    It has no bearing on the crap shoot, short playoff series.

    #237264
    1982 willie
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    I think having a winning team that wins it’s division says more about your organization than playing ok and maybe being a wildcard team. But I’m old school.

    #237271
    bccran
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    Looking forward to an OF of Walker, Scott, Carlson, Nootbaar, and Gorman.

    #237279
    jj-cf-stl
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    BC,
    With that OF five, I’d expect the infield D to be as good as any in mlb. Maybe the best.

    Your alignment of Gorman, Noot and Edman is intriguing. They all three start, it’s just where, right? Gorman at a corner OF forces Noot to CF, and Edman to 2B.

    Scott gets here when he can, with Carlson as backup CF depth today. The OF D with Walker / Gorman as corners, Noot in CF, might be average-ish.

    Worst case: Noot goes IL and Carlson underachieves. Not to boo-bird the idea, because it’s thought provoking if you have Edman in CF as I do, but that this alignment will require everyday CF depth, to keep Edman at 2B. Otherwise, Oli plugs Edman in CF and Donovan to 2B.

    #237284
    bccran
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    Carlson or Noot can cover CF until Scott arrives. Walker and Gorman are your prototypical corner outfielders.
    And you’re right, you have one of the best defensive IFs in MLB.

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