Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018

Home The Cardinal Nation Forums Open Forum Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018

This topic contains 2,871 replies, has 53 voices, and was last updated by Brian Walton Brian Walton 10 months, 3 weeks ago.

Viewing 25 posts - 2,776 through 2,800 (of 2,872 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #76896
    Avatar
    mudville
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    This move makes sense, IMO. The Cardinals’ 25-man roster is almost set, and I would say that they have little inclination to stash a Rule 5 pickup there for an entire season. So they took Meisinger off waivers, and they don’t have to meet any requirements to keep him. Maybe a fresh start and new coaches will get Meisinger to stop losing baseballs. Maybe he will get better. A full 40-man roster means that its unlikely that they will sign a free agent during the winter meetings, which they probably weren’t going to do anyway since the prices (dollars and years) on free agent haven’t started to come down yet. And if I understand correctly, after the Rule 5 draft, they can make room for a free agent on the 40-man roster by removing any player who still has options left from the 40-man roster.

    #76898
    Avatar
    CariocaCardinal
    Participant

    Paid - Monthly

    Any player they remove from the 40 man roster – options or not – would need to clear waivers for the Cardinals to retain control.

    #76905
    Avatar
    Cardinals2016
    Participant

    Free
    #76911
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    #76925
    Avatar
    Cardinals2016
    Participant

    Free

    So, MLBTR is reporting that the Yankees, Mets and Marlins might be teaming up on a 3 team trade with Realmuto going to the Mets, Syndegaard going to the Yankees (I presume) and prospects going to the Marlins…

    Which got me thinking: Cleveland and Tampa are two of our best potential trade partners right now, and there is a way to get Kluber without it really hurting at all:

    Tampa has reportedly discussed getting Edwin Encarnacion and Yandi Diaz from Cleveland. It is presumed Cleveland will need to send cash back to Tampa to facilitate a trade, because Tampa is cheap.

    So:
    – The Cardinals send JMart, Gyorko, Hudson and Adolis Garcia & $5 million to Cleveland
    – The Cardinals send Wacha + $5 million to Tampa
    – Cleveland sends $5 million per year for two years, Encarnacion & Diaz to Tampa
    – Cleveland sends Kluber to the Cardinals
    – Tampa sends Brandon Lowe to the Cardinals, Joe McCarthy to Cleveland

    Cardinals end up with Kluber + Brandon Lowe
    Cleveland ends up with JMart, Gyorko, Hudson, Adolis Garcia, Joe McCarthy and about $27 million in savings
    Tampa ends up with Wacha, Encarnacion, Diaz + $10 million

    All 3 teams are improved

    #76931
    Avatar
    mspaid
    Participant

    Cardinals 2016:

    Call Mo and make that trade!!!!!

    #76987
    Avatar
    thejager
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Jeez… a guy goes to Europe for a few weeks and comes back to all this happening!

    wowza

    so…Goldy is onboard with no guarantee of anything past 2019…Kelly and Weaver are gone…we seem to be out on HArper…FOwler has RF…we are trying to turn Jmart into a left RP…Gyorko might be on the move…and we seem to be talking with the Giants about Will Smith

    miss anything?

    -Goldy is an upgrade, but he is already showing signs of aging…and forces Carp to 3b and his shoulder issues
    -Kelly and Weaver seem like they werent ever going to get their chances here with the situation as it is and the depth behind them…sorry to see them go, buti understand…even if i think we sold a bit low on Kelly to get one year of Goldy
    -if we are all in on 2019 why are we not all in on HArper still? This makes no sense to me to not be in on HArper big time…at his age and with a 10yr deal at whatever money you are still looking at probably 8 years of the best production out of the player…there is no better time to offer someone like that a big contract..sure it is risky…but at 10 yrs you can even have a down year or two for injury oor whatever and still get great value…
    -i get commiting to giving Fowler a chance in the SPring…but using that dialog to answer questions about NOT going after Harper is extremely disingenuous about going all in…as that is the response about Goldy for only 1 yr
    -Jmart turning into a lefty is a good idea…makes sense, just not sure where he matches up…save maybe Minny who are looking at Cruz it seems…the argument for JMart instead of Cruz shoudl be easy and getting ROgers for him seems pretty fair
    -moving Gyorko makes sense, though i am getting hesitant at this point as Carpa t 3b to me means we need starter level backup…with no offense to Munoz or Wisdom
    -Looking at SF and Will SMith is awesome…that’s my main target too…he may be a bit costly but he checks a lot of boxes…if you cant get Rogers use JMart for something else and get Watson from SF too…maybe you can find a back end setup type for JMart on the market

    #76991
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    Jager, I hope you enjoyed your vacation. A lot of discussion with little agreement here. Same as usual!

    #76993
    Avatar
    Cardinals27
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Interesting stat on Meisinger. He gave up all 10 runs in 3 outings. The other 7 outings were clean.

    #76997
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    Only pitch him on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday on the road? 😉

    #77009
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    This is really interesting.

    #77011
    Avatar
    Bw52
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Seems I have read that the Reds are in on several SPs…..Kluber,Bauer,Miley,Kuechel,Happ.Sounds like the Reds FO is growing iterd of waiting for all those young arms to mature .I would think pitching half your games in that bandbox would definitely make a pitcher think twice about signing with them.

    #77013
    Avatar
    Bw52
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Phillies just signed Andrew McCutchen to a 3 year deal
    Pirates- Jordan Lyles RHP basically replaces Ivan Nova who was traded to White Sox earlier today.

    The meeetings are showing a faint pulse finally.Dim but there.

    #77017
    Avatar
    Bw52
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Toronto cuts Troy Tulowitzki and eats 38 millon.Wow.

    #77018
    Avatar
    Cardinals2016
    Participant

    Free

    Toronto cuts Troy Tulowitzki and eats 38 millon.Wow.

    I wish our front office would make a similar move…

    #77019
    Avatar
    Cardinals27
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Would Tulo make any sense for us? Or does he have anything left?

    #77021
    Avatar
    Cardinals2016
    Participant

    Free

    There’s a reason he was cut

    #77024
    Avatar
    mudville
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    jags – If you haven’t been following the airwaves in the Lou, understand that there is a Goldschmidt love-fest underway. It is premature to say that we will only have him for one year. Intense fan pressure to extend Goldshmidt has already begun.

    Tulo gave MLB some truly great years, all of them to Colorado. There’s a lesson in this that we’ve all seen before. Sad to see him go out this way.

    #77025
    Avatar
    Cardinals2016
    Participant

    Free

    Tampa Stadium dead

    So, the owner took 3 years to find a location, wouldn’t commit to how much he would spend on a stadium, and says he can’t really commit to paying anything for his own business.

    Copying the Oakland A’s playbook all the way.

    #77027
    Avatar
    CariocaCardinal
    Participant

    Paid - Monthly

    Tulo basically told the Jays that if you wont commit to me as the starting SS then I dont want to be here.

    Surprising they couldn’t get some one to pay 4-6 million of that. Maybe Tulo said no trade as well (I assume he had a no trade clause)

    #77035
    Avatar
    forsch31
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Just received a notification that the Cardinals traded Wisdom to the Rangers for Drew Robinson.

    #77090
    Avatar
    Thegreyghost
    Participant

    Free

    Sounds like dodgers are trying to get rid of some outfielders to get Harper …. Bellinger has been mentioned in trade talks

    Buster Olney: The Dodgers have talked to other teams about moving two outfielders among the group of Matt Kemp, Yasiel Puig, Joc Pederson and Cody Bellinger. As they look to reshape payroll, they also are prepared to move starting pitchers Rich Hill and Alex Wood.

    #77096
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    The Luxury Tax is really forcing some teams to get creative. The Red Sox may be doing some similar moves, though perhaps not on the Dodgers scale.

    #77140
    Avatar
    thejager
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Thanks Brian…was gone for business, but it was still a nice vacation from normal…

    nevertheless…Dodgers talking with us about JMart?

    odd…what do they have that we could want? Id love Bellinger, but no way he is going anywhere…I wonder if Pederson is who we have our eye on?

    Maybe we are thinking we could buy low on the young lefty as the Dodgers try to move money to go after MAchado or Harper…ive heard they are also talking with the Reds about Puig potentially

    I still think we should go big on Harper and just be done with it
    trade for Will Smith and Rogers…maybe see if we can sneak a Dietrich or Descalso move in too..and settle up to the table for the year and beyond

    #77158
    Avatar
    CariocaCardinal
    Participant

    Paid - Monthly

    2016, not sure I follow why your link indicates Gyrko could be a fit for the Nationals. Unless I missed something, the article only mentions their pursuit of LH hitters.

Viewing 25 posts - 2,776 through 2,800 (of 2,872 total)

The topic ‘Trade Ideas/Acquisition Ideas/Non-Cards Rumors – 2017-2018’ is closed to new replies.

First-hand news and commentary on the St. Louis Cardinals™ and their minor league system for 20 years