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March 29, 2024 at 10:26 pm #245484
Toscar Hernandez hit both HR on balls up in the left hand corner of the zone. The first HR was on a 90 MPH two seamer, the second HR was on a hanging 73 MPR curveball.
March 29, 2024 at 10:37 pm #245487This team is already unwatchable.
March 29, 2024 at 10:37 pm #245488I uh, guess we’ll get ’em tomorrow, lol.
March 29, 2024 at 10:38 pm #245489The pitch to Betts in the 1st and to Hernandez in the 4th have convinced me that under no circumstances should Thompson ever again offer up a curveball to a RH’ed hitter…Zsa Zsa Gabor could have tatered up on those two hangers.
March 29, 2024 at 10:40 pm #245490Yes they are unwatchable. These hitters we have take pitch after pitch and make me want to hurl. Awful looking ball club. Good job Mo.
March 29, 2024 at 10:44 pm #245491
jj-cf-stlParticipantI liked how ZT competed. Results not so much.
March 29, 2024 at 10:48 pm #245492Why was the set-up man working in the 6th inning of a game in which his team trailed by 5 runs?
March 29, 2024 at 10:52 pm #245493Lol good heavens. Have some integrity.
That'll do for Zack Thompson, who pitched better than the line indicated, but ultimately made three bad pitches and got burned on all of them. Giovanny Gallegos takes over with one on and one out.
— Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) March 30, 2024
March 29, 2024 at 11:00 pm #245494Sounds like something the Cardinal manager would say.
March 29, 2024 at 11:06 pm #245495
jj-cf-stlParticipantWe got’em set up now. They’ll never see this coming…
March 29, 2024 at 11:13 pm #245496We’ve stayed up this late. We may as well see it out…
March 29, 2024 at 11:16 pm #245497They simply
need more veteran leadership.March 29, 2024 at 11:17 pm #245498Hey!!!
We got three runs. A chance at a 4th!
March 29, 2024 at 11:21 pm #245499we did well for the most part with RISP there.
6-3 Dodgers
March 29, 2024 at 11:35 pm #245500That’s the ballgame. Matt Carpenter pinch-hits for Winn and lines out to end it.
And that sucks. I had a coke bet with my buddy that he would strike out in his first at bat this year. I just lost $3.
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March 29, 2024 at 11:36 pm #245501Sounds like something the Cardinal manager would say.
I’ve noticed that Katie has regurgitated the FO’s and Marmol’s talking points a lot in the offseason.
March 29, 2024 at 11:40 pm #245502Welp, I think we all knew how that was gonna turn out. 160 more games to go.
March 29, 2024 at 11:53 pm #245503The Cardinals went 63-90 in 1912. That .412 win percentage equates to 67 wins in today’s game and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that’s where this team finishes. The starting pitching is tire fire.
The #STLCards have allowed six home runs total in their first two games of the season for the first time in franchise history (since 1912).
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) March 30, 2024
March 30, 2024 at 1:31 am #245504“Why was the set-up man working in the 6th inning of a game in which his team trailed by 5 runs?”
I didn’t bother me, Marmol bringing Gallegos into the game. Chance to shake off the rust, get a game under his belt.
But the key of course — the only key, since the game was a blowout at the time — was to not throw so many pitches that Gio’s availability would be in any way compromised for Saturday.
So what did the manager do? He left Gallegos in for two innings and 20 pointless pitches. It’s taken two games and Marmol has already displayed his incompetence.
Not that Marmol has any idea what role Gallegos occupies within his bullpen anyway. Recall that last August, in a space of five appearances, Gallegos was used as closer, as Jake Woodford Mopup Eunuch, as seventh inning guy, and as the setup man. One of Ollie’s innumerable managerial weaknesses is that he does not understand (having never played above A-ball) that the vast, vast majority of major leaguers hit and pitch and field their best when they have defined roles.
It’d be pretty silly to draw any conclusions based on a couple of games against the Dodger juggernaut — their incredible winning percentage over the past five years is MLB’s best half-decade since the Billy Southworth Redbirds. But one thing we do know. The StL manager is still terrible.
March 30, 2024 at 3:48 am #245505
major leaguers hit and pitch and field their best when they have defined roles.
That is an intangible Bob. Intangibles are things that cannot be objectively measured and therefore constitute dirty input, which is caustic to the system. The best way to handle a factor that cannot be reliably quantified is to pretend it does not exist. If you can redefine reality so that success conforms to the limitations of your system, your output will be amazing. This is how wonks think, Bob, and they are running the asylum now.
March 30, 2024 at 4:04 am #245507The Dodgers have started off their season with two quality starts.
March 30, 2024 at 5:21 am #245510Raise your hand if you were dumb enough to believe the over the hill three were gonna change anything. Oh yeah they haven’t pitched a game yet, but this team is every bit as bad as last year’s version. It’s a culture thing alright. It’s stale culture that starts at the top and needs to change or they are in a perpetual winter as a franchise.
March 30, 2024 at 6:20 am #245511Nothing like a bichfest 2 games into the season against the best roster in the league. Let me point out there have been no errors so that’s encouraging. We obviously need to get the offense going. Scoring runs takes pressure off the pitching. And I’m wondering what level of baseball I need to have played to understand game strategy? Maybe they have no intentions of pitching Gallegos 2 days in a row so he goes 2 innings? Ask Ollie.
March 30, 2024 at 7:26 am #245517It’s not a bitchfest. It’s reality as that team is the measuring stick. Literally nothing has changed and it might actually be worse this year. You’re hired staff “ace” is already on the shelf. The clowns extended Marmol when it could have been an easy out by June and trust this much they are already out. So no it’s not two games in to this mess. It’s been a slow burn over a few seasons now.
March 30, 2024 at 8:20 am #245526Nothing like a bichfest 2 games into the season against the best roster in the league. Let me point out there have been no errors so that’s encouraging. We obviously need to get the offense going. Scoring runs takes pressure off the pitching. And I’m wondering what level of baseball I need to have played to understand game strategy? Maybe they have no intentions of pitching Gallegos 2 days in a row so he goes 2 innings? Ask Ollie.
Its obvious the Cardinals are not on the same level as the Dodgers and that is the problem. The Dodgers are what the Cards used to be. If you’re fine with that then all be means give Dewit your wallet.
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