November 30, 2020 at 8:24 am #148462
The State College Spikes have a noon ET press conference today during which they are expected to announce they are joining the new MLB Draft League for draft-eligible collegians. The team was formerly the #stlcards affiliate in the short-season Class A New York-Penn League. pic.twitter.com/xMhQEZ9kUa
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 30, 2020November 30, 2020 at 8:31 am #148463stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
State College got literally the shortest end of the stick possible. Luckily, the team plays in Penn State’s college stadium so upkeep shouldn’t cost the owner much. Still, it’s a gut punch for central PA baseball fans.November 30, 2020 at 9:11 am #148473November 30, 2020 at 9:48 am #14848014NyquisTParticipant
My question is…. how will players be dispersed?November 30, 2020 at 10:05 am #148485
Assuming you are asking about the Cardinals players on the rosters of the two teams eliminated – nothing fancy or complicated is ahead. The best ones will be promoted and the others released – but the Cardinals can delay as long as June, when extended spring training ends and the GCL would begin (assuming a “normal” 2021). Remember that players are not paid salaries during ST and EST. The Roster Matrix currently shows the State College and Johnson City rosters with a total of 33 players, but there are some upline openings to be filled later.November 30, 2020 at 1:42 pm #148495
They Cardinals have 28 guys on DSL Blue and 29 guys on DSL Red with another 30 guys that they signed in the international signing period. And now they’re eliminating 2 teams. This just seems idiotic driven by greed. I can’t wait to see how many David Peralta’s they end up losing because they won’t have time for guys to develop.November 30, 2020 at 1:46 pm #148496stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
BHC, won’t everyone be in that boat, though? So perhaps the David Peraltas will be working outside MLB when teams drop them too quickly.November 30, 2020 at 3:23 pm #148500
I have predicted all along that when the smoke clears from the two teams cut, the Cardinals will quietly add a second GCL team – but maybe not until June. Just don’t call it Johnson City South! 😉November 30, 2020 at 7:46 pm #148511
When everyone knows the end is near…
FANS! Today we are launching our biggest sale of the year! From today through the close of business on 12/4/20 everything will be 75% off! Get your hands on any remaining Johnson City Cardinals gear while supplies last! Please know that shipping times will vary. pic.twitter.com/DuoYR5MBHZ
— AppyLeague_JC (@JC_Cardinals) November 30, 2020December 1, 2020 at 6:38 am #148519
So sad seeing Johnson City like this. 50+ years of MiLB history flushed down the drain.
On another note, the State College Spikes look like they have accepted MLB’s proposal to be one of the teams in the new MLB Draft League.December 3, 2020 at 8:00 am #148718
BA is reporting that MLB will limit teams to a 180-players domestically. This would allow teams to have 6 teams with two of them being complex teams. It would also allow teams to have 30-man rosters for every team in their system. There is also an unconfirmed report that MLB teams would be able to loan players to independent partner league teams.December 3, 2020 at 9:35 am #148726bccranParticipant
Will the Cards still have 2 teams in the DSL?December 3, 2020 at 10:55 am #148729
MLB has a limit of 2 DSL teams.December 3, 2020 at 11:55 am #148732
Full season teams have 25-man rosters and short-season clubs have 35 max, but the latter are not typically full. So 4 x 25 plus 2 x 30 would equal 160. Add in another 20 for injured players.
So with 180 limit would enable two short-season teams and six total.
As to a second DSL team continuing, organizations do not announce their intent to add or contract teams in advance. However, here are the numbers of players in the DSL right now, per the Roster Matrix.
2020 signees 30
Seems pretty close to impossible to fit 88 players onto one 35-man roster. And promoting huge numbers to the GCL would only shift the problem. Further, the new international signing period opens next month.December 3, 2020 at 2:48 pm #148745December 3, 2020 at 4:37 pm #148749
So some adjustments could be ahead…
MLB is considering expanding minor league roster sizes beyond 25 players.
I welcome this news if it allows for:
More six-man rotations (more side work between starts)
More third catchers (to allow more DH flexibility)https://t.co/000MPc0Uex
— Matt Eddy (@MattEddyBA) December 3, 2020December 9, 2020 at 12:05 pm #149162
As expected, the #stlcards have confirmed their four full-season affiliates are continuing, with Class A teams Peoria and Palm Beach changing levels. Triple-A Memphis and Double-A Springfield remain. Short-season clubs State College and Johnson City are out.
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 9, 2020December 9, 2020 at 9:15 pm #149213
I just read Brian’s summation of his interview with Mo and my biggest thought is this:
If Mo is adamant the Cardinals will only field one GCL team there are a ton of players who will need to be moved in order to make room for them at DSL. There are 28 players on DSL Blue and 29 players on DSL Red with an additional 30 international signings. Additionally, they are subtracting 70 roster spots with the elimination of State College and Johnson City. Moreover, the 2020 international signing period is set to begin in January. Where the hell are all of these guys supposed to play?December 10, 2020 at 1:20 am #149215858booyahParticipantFree
Well bhc I think you know what is going to happen. They will purge the minors to make room for some of these players. Bottom line is it’s a business and right now it’s not that good.December 11, 2020 at 2:31 pm #149365
My translation: Even the teams on the inside of the 120 are going to feel some pain as MLB takes direct control…
“To move forward, MLB requires minor league owners to sign two things in the next week and a half: a non-disclosure agreement and an indemnification of MLB.” @Sportico @BerniePleskoff https://t.co/sANvWtjma9
— Barry M. Bloom (@Boomskie) December 11, 2020December 11, 2020 at 5:26 pm #149367
Uhhh…that sounds very heavy handed. Nothing new, though, for MLB. No wonder Tacoma hasnt accepted yet.December 16, 2020 at 2:58 pm #149668December 18, 2020 at 10:56 am #149839
Everything Evan reports here is what I'm hearing as well. I am also hearing that more than three-fourths of the 120 invited teams have signed their NDAs and waiver of right to sue to continue the process towards MLB issued Professional Development Licenses. https://t.co/tJbaTUmoUu
— JJ Cooper (@jjcoop36) December 18, 2020December 22, 2020 at 11:48 am #150141
A very detailed and scathing assessment of MLB’s motives and actions concerning the minors…
— Neil deMause (@neildemause) December 22, 2020December 22, 2020 at 12:35 pm #15014414NyquisTParticipant
deMause tells it like it is…. good read to educate yourself of the goings-on with this issue.
I read the many comments to se how some fans are with this shakedown.
Appreciate the summary. I know a lot was happening with this throughout the year, but it got lost amid pandemics and a delayed season etc. and I kinda stopped following.
I hate it. Figures it all starts with the Astros. ****the Astros.
Actually Luhnow was at the bottom of this…. rotten 3astard.
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