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  • #171224
    gscottar
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    I agree Brian. I have concluded that many MLB teams, including the Cardinals, are headed towards a period of austerity. I have altered my outlook for this offseason for sure.

    #171271
    mudville
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    Regarding diversity….. I think MLB has been trying for several years to get more black kids playing baseball. But I don’t think there’s been much success and I don’t think anybody really knows why. If there are not enough black kids playing baseball that would mean less black management talent is being developed.

    #175211
    gscottar
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    #176988
    stlcard25
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    Details on the changes to the housing conditions for minor leaguers…

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/leases-no-more-mlb-teams-now-responsible-for-minor-league-housing/

    #176994
    CariocaCardinal
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    Would love tô see an article on what happened tô the baseball communities in State College and Johnson City this past year (hint for Brian)

    #176995
    CariocaCardinal
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    I once calculated what it would cost for a team tô provide 3 training table quality meals a day for its players as a way of gaining a competitive advantage. Really cheap. Basically about a million dollars for all Stateside players for the season.

    Also thought about what it would cost to keep your minor leaguers in a training camp environment for a full off season. Weight rooms. Training table. Daily instruction. Probably about $3 million a year. If it improved 1-2 players a year to Major league quality or added to the performance of 1-2 players a year at the Major league level it would seem to easily pay for itself.

    #176998
    bicyclemike
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    Good thoughts CC. I would think an organization could get intangible benefits too, from the camaraderie and synergistic value of bringing a team together. Well worth the investment based on your estimates.

    #177016
    Brian Walton
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    CC asked:

    Would love tô see an article on what happened tô the baseball communities in State College and Johnson City this past year (hint for Brian)

    I would start with a comparison of attendance numbers, but I haven’t seen any for the new college leagues.

    #178352
    Brian Walton
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    As I predicted when this started, some of the teams that were totally left behind in the contraction process would sue MLB. The bigger picture matter is if MLB’s antitrust exemption is exposed in the courts in the process.

    #179030
    Brian Walton
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    #179516
    Brian Walton
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    #180007
    Brian Walton
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    Here we go. Minor leaguers are going to get shafted again because no one is representing them in the CBA negotiations. Dropping US minor leaguers from 180 to below 150 is possible.

    #180012
    Brian Walton
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    An important update:

    #180016
    stlcard25
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    How much money would the minor league cuts even save? Seems like the spirit of Luhnow is alive and well even if the guy is not in the league anymore.

    #180019
    gscottar
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    According to our roster matrix the Cardinals currently have 163 domestic minor leaguers so that wouldn’t result in a lot of cuts if they trimmed it to 150. I wouldn’t imagine the savings would be much. Most of the cuts would probably come from the complex team since the four full time teams need a certain amount of players to compete.

    #180029
    CariocaCardinal
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    Ok 25, I do not understand your Lunhow comment. The guy added minor largue teams and roster spots.

    #180030
    Brian Walton
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    I don’t think he was referring to the Cardinals Luhnow, but instead the Astros one. The latter guy is considered the architect of the plan to contract the US minor leagues.

    #180033
    stlcard25
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    That is correct and was my meaning, BW and Carioca.

    #180034
    Cardinals27
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    I don’t see these cuts saving much money. Doesn’t make much sense.

    #180170
    Brian Walton
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    In the most recent negotiating session, MLB reportedly took further minor league contraction off the table.

    HOWEVER, since the union does not represent the minors, there is nothing to stop MLB for cutting anytime they choose (as they did already prior to the 2021 season).

    My guess is that the owners floated the idea, hoping the union would accept hurting the minors in return for concessions from what they want for MLB players. The union didn’t bite.

    #180851
    Brian Walton
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    Fortunately, they backed off the stupid minors league name changes used last season.

    #180856
    GameCard
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    Much better fit for Memphis to be in the International League. I can see them play in Charlotte.

    #180859
    forsch31
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    Does this mean Peoria is going to be the lower A team this year?

    #180866
    gscottar
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    Does this mean Peoria is going to be the lower A team this year?

    No, Peoria will still be High A and Palm Beach will be Low A.

    #180883
    Brian Walton
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    Just to clarify, Memphis was moved to the International League prior to the 2021 season. They just didn’t call it the International League for that one season.

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