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August 30, 2021 at 11:15 am #171224
I agree Brian. I have concluded that many MLB teams, including the Cardinals, are headed towards a period of austerity. I have altered my outlook for this offseason for sure.
August 30, 2021 at 8:19 pm #171271Regarding diversity….. I think MLB has been trying for several years to get more black kids playing baseball. But I don’t think there’s been much success and I don’t think anybody really knows why. If there are not enough black kids playing baseball that would mean less black management talent is being developed.
October 17, 2021 at 6:32 pm #175211MLB To Require Teams To Provide Housing For Minor Leaguers https://t.co/oqHPxeHv5G pic.twitter.com/OKlByD0b6Y
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) October 17, 2021
November 18, 2021 at 12:44 pm #176988
stlcard25ParticipantDetails on the changes to the housing conditions for minor leaguers…
November 18, 2021 at 3:27 pm #176994Would love tô see an article on what happened tô the baseball communities in State College and Johnson City this past year (hint for Brian)
November 18, 2021 at 3:48 pm #176995I once calculated what it would cost for a team tô provide 3 training table quality meals a day for its players as a way of gaining a competitive advantage. Really cheap. Basically about a million dollars for all Stateside players for the season.
Also thought about what it would cost to keep your minor leaguers in a training camp environment for a full off season. Weight rooms. Training table. Daily instruction. Probably about $3 million a year. If it improved 1-2 players a year to Major league quality or added to the performance of 1-2 players a year at the Major league level it would seem to easily pay for itself.
November 18, 2021 at 5:39 pm #176998Good thoughts CC. I would think an organization could get intangible benefits too, from the camaraderie and synergistic value of bringing a team together. Well worth the investment based on your estimates.
November 18, 2021 at 10:12 pm #177016CC asked:
Would love tô see an article on what happened tô the baseball communities in State College and Johnson City this past year (hint for Brian)
I would start with a comparison of attendance numbers, but I haven’t seen any for the new college leagues.
December 20, 2021 at 5:18 pm #178352As I predicted when this started, some of the teams that were totally left behind in the contraction process would sue MLB. The bigger picture matter is if MLB’s antitrust exemption is exposed in the courts in the process.
This is going to be interesting. Courts don't normally meddle in how franchises are managed. Argument is that MLB is looking to control all pro baseball, but there are non-affiliated pro teams. It's whether this one gets all the way to the SCOTUS that is hard to gauge. https://t.co/s59jhvG7dw
— Maury Brown (@BizballMaury) December 20, 2021
January 13, 2022 at 2:21 pm #179030The Atlantic League will keep using shift limits, extra-inning Zombie runners and larger bases.
More rule-change experiments are also coming, as part of a collaboration with MLB.
Those changes will be announced this spring. https://t.co/z7SvP3YDE8
— Jayson Stark (@jaysonst) January 13, 2022
January 26, 2022 at 1:54 pm #179516What happens when an MiLB team gets kicked out of MiLB? Talked to a dozen former affiliates about life after contraction:
“Had to fly the plane as we were building it.”
“Financially, it beat the hell out of us.”
“One of my favorite years I ever had.”https://t.co/m5NqAowjqV
— Andy McCullough (@ByMcCullough) January 26, 2022
February 14, 2022 at 8:00 pm #180007Here we go. Minor leaguers are going to get shafted again because no one is representing them in the CBA negotiations. Dropping US minor leaguers from 180 to below 150 is possible.
Major League Baseball asked for the ability to eliminate hundreds of minor league playing jobs in its latest labor proposal, sources told ESPN. The league would not be allowed to implement the plan until after 2022.
Details, free and unlocked, at ESPN: https://t.co/ZkKNE7LhsG
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 15, 2022
February 15, 2022 at 7:10 am #180012An important update:
Updating: The MLBPA has rejected past offers from MLB that would agree the league can control the number of domestic minor league playing jobs and plans to formally reject the proposal that would allow MLB to cut from 180 per organization to as few as 150. https://t.co/ZkKNE7LhsG
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 15, 2022
February 15, 2022 at 7:39 am #180016
stlcard25ParticipantHow much money would the minor league cuts even save? Seems like the spirit of Luhnow is alive and well even if the guy is not in the league anymore.
February 15, 2022 at 8:49 am #180019According to our roster matrix the Cardinals currently have 163 domestic minor leaguers so that wouldn’t result in a lot of cuts if they trimmed it to 150. I wouldn’t imagine the savings would be much. Most of the cuts would probably come from the complex team since the four full time teams need a certain amount of players to compete.
February 15, 2022 at 2:38 pm #180029Ok 25, I do not understand your Lunhow comment. The guy added minor largue teams and roster spots.
February 15, 2022 at 3:21 pm #180030I don’t think he was referring to the Cardinals Luhnow, but instead the Astros one. The latter guy is considered the architect of the plan to contract the US minor leagues.
February 15, 2022 at 3:43 pm #180033
stlcard25ParticipantThat is correct and was my meaning, BW and Carioca.
February 15, 2022 at 4:56 pm #180034I don’t see these cuts saving much money. Doesn’t make much sense.
February 23, 2022 at 8:20 am #180170In the most recent negotiating session, MLB reportedly took further minor league contraction off the table.
HOWEVER, since the union does not represent the minors, there is nothing to stop MLB for cutting anytime they choose (as they did already prior to the 2021 season).
My guess is that the owners floated the idea, hoping the union would accept hurting the minors in return for concessions from what they want for MLB players. The union didn’t bite.
March 16, 2022 at 12:25 pm #180851Fortunately, they backed off the stupid minors league name changes used last season.
Good news! For the #stlcards, the only change is that @memphisredbirds are in the International League rather than the PCL. This is due to prior realignment. @Sgf_Cardinals in Texas League, @peoriachiefs in Midwest League and @GoPBCardinals in Florida State League. https://t.co/Jnsn1gl2SN
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 16, 2022
March 16, 2022 at 2:01 pm #180856Much better fit for Memphis to be in the International League. I can see them play in Charlotte.
March 16, 2022 at 2:39 pm #180859Does this mean Peoria is going to be the lower A team this year?
March 16, 2022 at 3:38 pm #180866Does this mean Peoria is going to be the lower A team this year?
No, Peoria will still be High A and Palm Beach will be Low A.
March 16, 2022 at 7:01 pm #180883Just to clarify, Memphis was moved to the International League prior to the 2021 season. They just didn’t call it the International League for that one season.
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