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The Pirates are so terribly run. It’s a real shame that they fleeced PA taxpayers to pay for their beautiful new stadium only to put a competitive team on the field once every 20 years. That ownership group is nothing but trouble and could use run out of town.
But don’t forget about that old adage basically stating that owners own the teams and it is their money and fans should dutifully go along with the owners wishes. I wonder if the Pirate fans feel that way.
gscottar wrote:
…I wonder if the Pirate fans feel that way.
The way for fans to get their message across to ownership is to stay home, to not subscribe to the TV networks and not watch games. What we say on social media and message boards may make us feel better, but it has no impact other than to enable us to blow off steam.
But don’t forget about that old adage basically stating that owners own the teams and it is their money and fans should dutifully go along with the owners wishes. I wonder if the Pirate fans feel that way.
Living in Western PA and growing up around a lot of Pirates fans…they most definitely do not.
…But it’s a great place to see a game. Lots of seats available most days.
Not everyone in Pittsburgh is sorry to see Marte go. From an article in The Athletic:
“There were moments of lackadaisical head-assery that left people rightfully baffled, and his steroid suspension in 2017 nuked any chance at one final run of relevant baseball with the McCutchen core. If you can’t forgive him for that, you’re not alone. It’s a mixed legacy and one worth thinking about today, tomorrow and for a while after that.”
Dyson sounds thrilled to be with the Pirates. He later tried to walk it back.
Jarrod Dyson on why he signed with the Pirates: "Ain’t too much out there right now. You would love to explore, but at the same time, you have to take what you can, take the good with the bad and roll with it. Make the most of it."
— Jason Mackey (@JMackeyPG) February 13, 2020
Well, Pittsburgh is a nice city as cities go, and the surrounding country is very pleasant. I guess that’s something going for it.
Way to get off on the right foot with the Pirates’ fan base, Jarrod! The guy that came up with the idea of the guaranteed contract must have known there would be times like this.
#Pirates are holding off on furloughs in baseball operations for forseeable future, sources tell The Athletic. Team institituting pay cuts starting at 5 percent, and also will furlough some in business operations. But current plan is to retain and build staff for ‘21 and beyond.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) May 21, 2020
Uh, oh.
“We just kept him away for the last couple of days,” #Pirates manager Derek Shelton said after Wednesday's intrasquad scrimmage. “Nothing I’m going to discuss.”
So, if Gregory Polanco is out for an extended period, what next?https://t.co/SEVWtFwSRB
— RobBiertempfel (@RobBiertempfel) July 16, 2020
Confirmed.
#Pirates confirm Gregory Polanco has tested positive for COVID-19.
— RobBiertempfel (@RobBiertempfel) July 17, 2020
26 going on 30. pic.twitter.com/906wPBvZMn
— Pirates (@Pirates) July 23, 2020
“It is just the same as making a big trade….”
Sources: Pirates to promote Ke'Bryan Hayes for tomorrow's game against the Cubs. Will be the third-base prospect's MLB debut. Story to come.
— Jason Mackey (@JMackeyPG) August 31, 2020
Five games against this club in the next four days.
This Pirates team ranks last in modern franchise history (1900-present) in:
K% — 24.3 (on pace for 1,424 Ks over 162, also last)
BA — .218
OBP — .281
wRC+ — 69
There are more, obviously. But these, to me, are a few of the real attention-getters.— Jason Mackey (@JMackeyPG) September 17, 2020
I looked at this list of players and yawned…
Who on the #Pirates 40-man roster stay and who goes this winter?https://t.co/Kq7HFYKZdF
— RobBiertempfel (@RobBiertempfel) October 19, 2020
Just a farm system for MLB. The Bucs best players can be found in the postseason on other clubs rosters.
Don’t like seeing the Pirates run into the ground, as they have long been one of my favorite non-Cardinals franchises. Great team colors, solid history with a lot of great players, one of the best stadiums in the game today.
That Archer deal for Meadows and Glasnow really put the final nail in the coffin for Huntington. Meadwos was last year’s “Arozarena” for Tampa, and Glasnow has been better than the injured Archer.
They have a decent young core with Polanco, Frzier and now this kid Hayes. I like their shortstops, and Bell has shown flashes of stardom. Need to build the bullpen, hoard prospects and shoot for mid-to-late ’20s as being competitive, sort like the White Sox did the last five years or so.
Perception vs. reality?
Polanco has dealt with injuries and his performance cratered. His career OPS+ is 96, four percent below MLB average. (As a comparison point, Dexter Fowler’s OPS+ as a Cardinal-only is 98.)
Frazier’s career OPS+ is 100 exactly – the textbook definition of an average MLB player. Hayes looks like a winner, though.
They had so many players traded too early or that didn’t materialize. Remember they had a top 3 farm system in MLB one year.
Austin Meadows (last years Arrozarena) and Tyler Glasnow went to Tampa for Chris Archer…awful trade. Meadows was a top 10 prospect in all of baseball (Carlson-level) as was Polanco, who never really developed at all. Kang got into all that trouble after looking promising for a couple seasons. Hanson, McGuire, and Kingham were also top 100 prospects that washed out. Then they lose Cole, Taillon gets hurt…Even Robbie Grossman was a former top 100 Pirate prospect that they traded for Wandy Rodriguez.
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