October 23, 2019 at 9:31 am #112490
Let’s have off-season threads for each of the NL Central teams when there is news to share.
The Pirates have parted ways with their team president. The GM survived, however. The manager job is still open.October 23, 2019 at 9:47 am #11249714NyquisTParticipant
This is a comment from the article above. Interesting how there are those who have a higher regard for Matheny than the STL front office and some loud mouth Cardinal fans.
Mike Totin11 seconds ago
Good move ! Now fire Neal Huntington and bring in Mike Matheny in Coonelly’s spot and let him begin the interview process for a new manager.
Mike could bring in Clapp.October 23, 2019 at 10:29 am #112505
Wow. One would really have to be a Matheny shill to suggest him as a team president candidate, given his limited or nonexistent front office experience. People say the darndest things!October 28, 2019 at 8:20 am #112915
Well, they are now firing the GM, too. Oddly, manager first, then team president and now the GM is out.
According to sources, the Pirates are firing Neal Huntington. Announcement coming later today. … Link to follow.
— Jason Mackey (@JMackeyPG) October 28, 2019October 28, 2019 at 9:15 am #112919stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
The Pirates need to fire their owner, too. What a dysfunctional organization.October 28, 2019 at 9:28 am #112922October 28, 2019 at 9:43 am #112926
I agree with stl25. Their owner needs to take a long look in the mirror. In the last five years their payrolls have been ranked 27, 27, 23, 25, 25. I think the results they have gotten have been pretty good considered what the FO and manager had to work with.October 28, 2019 at 8:18 pm #112948
Wasn’t Huntington thought of as an up-and-coming GM when he was hired? The Bucs had it going on for awhile there, but then went the cheap route by moving Cole and McCutchen. The latter Has worked out okay though as they got Brian Reynolds.
But when they did take the plunge as buyers, Huntington made the deal that probably lead to his firing, sending Glasnow and Meadows to Tampa for Chris Archer. That deal looks like it could do down as an all-time bust.October 28, 2019 at 9:24 pm #112952
Yes, Huntington was well-thought of once, but was in his job more than 12 years. He took over there at the end of the Jocketty regime here – so a lot has happened (or not) since then.October 29, 2019 at 4:02 pm #113028PadsFSParticipantPaid - Annual
then went the cheap route by moving Cole and McCutchen. The latter Has worked out okay though as they got Brian Reynolds.
But when they did take the plunge as buyers, Huntington made the deal that probably lead to his firing, sending Glasnow and Meadows to Tampa for Chris Archer. That deal looks like it could do down as an all-time bust.
Man, those are some bad trades…Put Glasnow, Cole, and Meadows back on the team…big difference.October 30, 2019 at 9:16 pm #113180
Yeah – they would subtract Musgrove and Moran, but Cole and Glasnow would keep you from having big losing streaks, and Meadows looks like he will be a star for years.October 30, 2019 at 10:28 pm #113197PugsleyAddamsParticipantPaid - Annual
Roberto Clemente, Willie Stargell, Bob Moose and Bruce Kison have to be rolling over in their graves at what has happened to this once proud franchise. The good fans in The Steel City deserve more.October 31, 2019 at 6:53 am #113255stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
Agreed, Pugs. Pittsburgh fans have proven that they will support a team that at least appears to try to be winning. Other than one little renaissance in the 2012-15 range, the Pirates haven’t even faked it since the early 90s.October 31, 2019 at 7:44 am #113291
The Pirates, along with the Reds, took over National League dominance after the Dodgers and Cardinals had won six straight pennants between them.
In the ‘70s, those two battled in several LCS’. We helped both teams by giving them some good players. Then late in the decade the Phillies came to prominence, again helped by our castoffs.
The Dodgers returned as well, and of course you guessed it, were helped by our castoffs (or at least “castoff”, Reggie Smith).October 31, 2019 at 9:24 am #113307
You are correct bikemike. My formative years in baseball were the late 70’s early 80’s. The dominant NL teams then were the Pirates, Phillies, Reds, and Dodgers. Very powerful teams.
The 1979 Pirates were called the Lumber Company. They had Willie Stargell, Dave Parker, Bill Madlock, Bill Robinson, John Milner, Phil Garner, Mike Easler, Lee Lacy, Omar Moreno, and others… They were loaded.
This once proud franchise is a shell of itself. It is kind of sad to see.November 15, 2019 at 12:29 pm #114477November 15, 2019 at 7:14 pm #114510
Word is incoming Pirates GM Ben Cherington respects/likes managerial legwork done already by Pirates people, and so the interviews may be mainly re-interviews. Among those to already interview: Shelton, Kotsay, Banister, Cora, Clapp, Christenson, Quatraro.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) November 16, 2019November 18, 2019 at 12:27 pm #114711November 27, 2019 at 10:45 pm #115742
Twins bench coach is the new Bucs manager.
Pirates new manager will be Derek Shelton, per source. Story to come.
— Jason Mackey (@JMackeyPG) November 27, 2019December 7, 2019 at 1:08 pm #116179
Don Kelly was Houston’s first base coach last season. One might assume he was not heavily involved in the cheating scandal to be hired now.
Other Pirates coaching staff announcements:
⚾️ Joey Cora will return as Third Base Coach
⚾️ Rick Eckstein will return as Hitting Coach
⚾️ Justin Meccage will return as Assistant Hitting Coach
— Pirates (@Pirates) December 7, 2019December 17, 2019 at 9:52 am #116980
Asked at Winter Meetings about adding veteran leadership, Ben Cherington said FA catcher could fill that bill, but “Role should be legitimate; You’re not going to get a guy who hits .150 just because he’s funny.” Yesterday, Pirates signed Luke Maile… who batted .151 last year.
— David Laurila (@DavidLaurilaQA) December 17, 2019December 17, 2019 at 9:52 am #116981
OFFICIAL: Oscar Marin will join Derek Shelton's staff as Pitching Coach for the 2020 season.
Marin served as Bullpen Coach for the Texas Rangers in 2019 after spending two seasons as the minor league Pitching Coordinator for the Seattle Mariners. pic.twitter.com/DFY9d3eUbN
— Pirates (@Pirates) December 17, 2019January 27, 2020 at 1:25 pm #120743January 27, 2020 at 1:52 pm #120747
INF Liover Peguero (per @ByRobertMurray) and RHP Brennan Malone (per @JonHeyman) are the prospects headed to the Pirates in the Starling Marte trade. Peguero was ranked seventh in the Diamondbacks' system by Baseball America, Malone ninth. Marte has two years' control.
— Nick Piecoro (@nickpiecoro) January 27, 2020
Malone plus Peguero (via @ByRobertMurray ) Plus $250 international money this year go to Purates in marte deal
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) January 27, 2020January 27, 2020 at 1:55 pm #120749
Well, the Pirates already had last place clinched. This might move them to the bottom of the NL (only MIA was worse last year). But for tanking, the Orioles, Royals and Tigers are still in the lead.
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