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Let’s have off-season threads for each of the NL Central teams when there is news to share.
The Pirates have parted ways with their team president. The GM survived, however. The manager job is still open.
This is a comment from the article above. Interesting how there are those who have a higher regard for Matheny than the STL front office and some loud mouth Cardinal fans.
Mike Totin11 seconds ago
Good move ! Now fire Neal Huntington and bring in Mike Matheny in Coonelly’s spot and let him begin the interview process for a new manager.
Mike could bring in Clapp.
Wow. One would really have to be a Matheny shill to suggest him as a team president candidate, given his limited or nonexistent front office experience. People say the darndest things!
Well, they are now firing the GM, too. Oddly, manager first, then team president and now the GM is out.
According to sources, the Pirates are firing Neal Huntington. Announcement coming later today. … Link to follow.
— Jason Mackey (@JMackeyPG) October 28, 2019
Their new president is respected, but is a non-baseball guy. Then again, so was Jeff Luhnow…
Pirates announce Executive Vice President and General Manager Neal Huntington has been relieved of his duties. pic.twitter.com/eIoZu8JU5g
— Pirates (@Pirates) October 28, 2019
I agree with stl25. Their owner needs to take a long look in the mirror. In the last five years their payrolls have been ranked 27, 27, 23, 25, 25. I think the results they have gotten have been pretty good considered what the FO and manager had to work with.
Wasn’t Huntington thought of as an up-and-coming GM when he was hired? The Bucs had it going on for awhile there, but then went the cheap route by moving Cole and McCutchen. The latter Has worked out okay though as they got Brian Reynolds.
But when they did take the plunge as buyers, Huntington made the deal that probably lead to his firing, sending Glasnow and Meadows to Tampa for Chris Archer. That deal looks like it could do down as an all-time bust.
Yes, Huntington was well-thought of once, but was in his job more than 12 years. He took over there at the end of the Jocketty regime here – so a lot has happened (or not) since then.
then went the cheap route by moving Cole and McCutchen. The latter Has worked out okay though as they got Brian Reynolds.
But when they did take the plunge as buyers, Huntington made the deal that probably lead to his firing, sending Glasnow and Meadows to Tampa for Chris Archer. That deal looks like it could do down as an all-time bust.
Man, those are some bad trades…Put Glasnow, Cole, and Meadows back on the team…big difference.
Yeah – they would subtract Musgrove and Moran, but Cole and Glasnow would keep you from having big losing streaks, and Meadows looks like he will be a star for years.
Roberto Clemente, Willie Stargell, Bob Moose and Bruce Kison have to be rolling over in their graves at what has happened to this once proud franchise. The good fans in The Steel City deserve more.
Agreed, Pugs. Pittsburgh fans have proven that they will support a team that at least appears to try to be winning. Other than one little renaissance in the 2012-15 range, the Pirates haven’t even faked it since the early 90s.
The Pirates, along with the Reds, took over National League dominance after the Dodgers and Cardinals had won six straight pennants between them.
In the ‘70s, those two battled in several LCS’. We helped both teams by giving them some good players. Then late in the decade the Phillies came to prominence, again helped by our castoffs.
The Dodgers returned as well, and of course you guessed it, were helped by our castoffs (or at least “castoff”, Reggie Smith).
You are correct bikemike. My formative years in baseball were the late 70’s early 80’s. The dominant NL teams then were the Pirates, Phillies, Reds, and Dodgers. Very powerful teams.
The 1979 Pirates were called the Lumber Company. They had Willie Stargell, Dave Parker, Bill Madlock, Bill Robinson, John Milner, Phil Garner, Mike Easler, Lee Lacy, Omar Moreno, and others… They were loaded.
This once proud franchise is a shell of itself. It is kind of sad to see.
Can confirm that Ben Cherington, Blue Jays VP and former Red Sox GM, has accepted the Pirates' offer and will be their new general manager. @JMackeyPG reported it first.
— Adam Berry (@adamdberry) November 15, 2019
Word is incoming Pirates GM Ben Cherington respects/likes managerial legwork done already by Pirates people, and so the interviews may be mainly re-interviews. Among those to already interview: Shelton, Kotsay, Banister, Cora, Clapp, Christenson, Quatraro.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) November 16, 2019
Good luck with that…
New #Pirates GM Ben Cherington would not commit to a direction for his new club: rebuild or stay status quo? Just said the goal is to get better every day. #MLB
— John Perrotto (@JPerrotto) November 18, 2019
Twins bench coach is the new Bucs manager.
Pirates new manager will be Derek Shelton, per source. Story to come.
— Jason Mackey (@JMackeyPG) November 27, 2019
Don Kelly was Houston’s first base coach last season. One might assume he was not heavily involved in the cheating scandal to be hired now.
Other Pirates coaching staff announcements:
⚾️ Joey Cora will return as Third Base Coach
⚾️ Rick Eckstein will return as Hitting Coach
⚾️ Justin Meccage will return as Assistant Hitting Coach— Pirates (@Pirates) December 7, 2019
Asked at Winter Meetings about adding veteran leadership, Ben Cherington said FA catcher could fill that bill, but “Role should be legitimate; You’re not going to get a guy who hits .150 just because he’s funny.” Yesterday, Pirates signed Luke Maile… who batted .151 last year.
— David Laurila (@DavidLaurilaQA) December 17, 2019
OFFICIAL: Oscar Marin will join Derek Shelton's staff as Pitching Coach for the 2020 season.
Marin served as Bullpen Coach for the Texas Rangers in 2019 after spending two seasons as the minor league Pitching Coordinator for the Seattle Mariners. pic.twitter.com/DFY9d3eUbN
— Pirates (@Pirates) December 17, 2019
Diamondbacks Reportedly Progressing Toward Trade For Starling Marte https://t.co/RK9mRvq9Om pic.twitter.com/ed28l4dbv1
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) January 27, 2020
INF Liover Peguero (per @ByRobertMurray) and RHP Brennan Malone (per @JonHeyman) are the prospects headed to the Pirates in the Starling Marte trade. Peguero was ranked seventh in the Diamondbacks' system by Baseball America, Malone ninth. Marte has two years' control.
— Nick Piecoro (@nickpiecoro) January 27, 2020
Malone plus Peguero (via @ByRobertMurray ) Plus $250 international money this year go to Purates in marte deal
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) January 27, 2020
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