December 19, 2020 at 11:30 am #149928
I would be surprised if he got more than a one year deal, probably in the $5M-$8M range. His market may develop more once the DH is decided.December 24, 2020 at 10:36 am #150302
Jose Ureña, who was talked about as an option here at one point, signed with Detroit. 1 year, $3.25MDecember 24, 2020 at 3:23 pm #150317
Josh Bell traded from the Pirates to the Nationals.December 24, 2020 at 3:49 pm #150318bccranParticipant
Exactly the type of trade the Cards should make. See, it can be done. And stay close to budget.December 24, 2020 at 7:18 pm #150329PugsleyAddamsParticipantPaid - Annual
Pirates fleece the Nats in this transaction. Eddy Yean is going to be something special.December 25, 2020 at 1:36 pm #150377
Whether the Cards logo has anything to do with them being actually involved or not, we know that Kim only has a week or so to sign. I hope the Cards are one of the teams involved and if it’s a similar $$ amount, there may be a good chance to sign if KK Kim, Oh and others have given Ha Seong Kim a good review of the place.
— Daniel Kim 대니얼 김 (@DanielKimW) December 25, 2020December 25, 2020 at 1:39 pm #150378
Not sure who this guy is exactly, but they claim that the Cards are in on him.
The posting deadline for Ha-Seong Kim is 1/2, and per Korean media, #TOR, #STL, #BOS, #TEX, #SDP and #NYM are among those believed to be in the mix. He is expected to get "4+ year and AVV 7mil$+" deal. I will happy for #Rays to get him. but their resource is limited.
— Homin Lee (@Homein22) December 25, 2020December 28, 2020 at 6:01 am #150563
Padres going for it.
BREAKING: The Padres have an agreement in place to acquire Blake Snell from the Rays, sources tell @JCTSports, @Ken_Rosenthal and me. Luis Patiño, Francisco Mejía, Blake Hunt and Cole Wilcox would head to Tampa. Deal pending review of medical records.
— Dennis Lin (@dennistlin) December 28, 2020December 28, 2020 at 7:12 am #150572
Rays fans are pretty upset about the deal. I’ve found hardly a peep from a spin through Padres fan sites early this morning, which is odd. Perhaps they’ll wake up soon.
Still, that’s a large haul for the Rays, albeit one with a lot of risk. The Cards system is nowhere near the Padres in overall talent, but this would be something like trading Liberatore, Knizner, Herrera and Masyn Winn for Snell. For an already ace lefty, that’s a risk you might want to take.December 28, 2020 at 9:21 am #150612
I would be concerned if I am the Padres. Dealing with the Rays is a big gamble. Snell will probably have the worst year of his career while the four prospects will all become MLB All Stars.December 28, 2020 at 9:50 am #150617December 28, 2020 at 9:56 am #150619
San Diego is probably the best team of the interested group, but also offers the least guaranteed playing time. He’s played little or no 2B, so it seems odd that they’d go that route. I’ll predict now that San Diego is not where he ends up.December 28, 2020 at 11:07 am #150624
Upper 20s would be a very reasonable deal for a guy like this. Still don’t understand why the Padres would be the favorite, with only 2B open. Given the terrible market for 2B this year, you’d think a player would shy away from committing that long at 2B. No way he unseats Tatis Jr or Machado in San Diego. Sherman may be right or his source may be misinformed. We will see.
Hear Kim guarantee likely to come in the high $20Ms range in 4- or 5-yr deal. AAV likely in the $7M-$8M. If #Padres finish it off which is most likely then probably will have low bases 1st 2 yrs until Myers deal runs out after '22 season.
— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) December 28, 2020December 28, 2020 at 1:14 pm #150636
Looks like the rumors are true. I still can’t understand how the fit works unless he got way more money in San Diego. The rich get richer.
The Padres have reached an agreement with Ha-seong Kim, a source tells The Athletic.
— Dennis Lin (@dennistlin) December 28, 2020December 28, 2020 at 1:16 pm #150637
Maybe the Cubs are getting Tatis or Machado back from the Pads? o)
No, they are probably going to move Croneworth to the OF.December 28, 2020 at 1:22 pm #150638
No, they are probably going to move Croneworth to the OF.
Which is fine for Cronenworth and probably fine for the team, but is career salary suicide for Kim. A 4 WAR 2B like Wong will be lucky to get a 2-3 year, $10M AAV deal at age 30. A 4 WAR SS like Baez, Story or Correa will probably get 2-2.5 times that AAV and 2-3 more years after next year.December 28, 2020 at 4:20 pm #150645
Within the last 24 hours the Padres have obtained Snell and Kim and appear to be close in getting Darvish. That is a combined $130M in salary obligations over the life of the contracts, not counting Kim’s release fee.
So much for covid-related revenue concerns.December 28, 2020 at 5:13 pm #150648
If we estimate H-S Kim at 7.5mil AAV, the current SDP budget sits at 147.3mil (including Snell), down barely (97%) from their 151.5mil 2020 opening day payroll.
They could backload H-S Kim in a 40% / 60 / 80 / 100% arb scale over 4 seasons if the want to add more talent this offseason? TBD.
I can’t remember if the SDP were one of the teams rumored as in on Yadi or not. Wonder if the will try to trade one of Pham or Will Meyers?December 28, 2020 at 5:27 pm #150649
Snell to SDP
Simulator says Diego overpaid by 8.0mil in players sent. Also determines TBR received 79% of their trade package back in Patino.
Padres close to acquiring Darvish in trade – MLBTRDecember 28, 2020 at 5:32 pm #150651
I can’t remember if the SDP were one of the teams rumored as in on Yadi or not. Wonder if the will try to trade one of Pham or Will Meyers?
I would think that they wouldn’t go for Yadi since they are planning to get one of Caratini or Contreras in the Darvish trade.December 28, 2020 at 5:53 pm #150654
Agree, if the SDP land a catcher in trade. Found the article where Yadi HAD named the Padres as a possible suitor. If he’s chasing a ring that would have been a good landing spot.December 28, 2020 at 9:51 pm #150663
Pretty brilliant trading by Preller, really. It may not work out (Clevinger already had the major injury) but not for lack of trying. And they kept most of their best young talents. Imagine Mo acquiring three high end players while keeping at least 4 of Carlson, Gorman, Liberatore, Thompson, Oviedo and Herrera?
You're not supposed to be able to acquire premium, proven, controllable starting pitching in trade.
The Padres have acquired Clevinger, Snell and Darvish in the past 6 months.
In July, Baseball America ranked 6 Padres among top 100 MLB prospects. Padres still have 4 of them.
— Bill Shaikin (@BillShaikin) December 29, 2020December 28, 2020 at 10:11 pm #150666Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
Imagine Mo acquiring three high end players while keeping at least 4 of Carlson, Gorman, Liberatore, Thompson, Oviedo and Herrera?
There is a not-so-slight difference in depth of talent. The Padres’ farm system had been ranked second in baseball coming into 2020 by five national raters. The Cardinals averaged 15th.December 29, 2020 at 5:48 am #150682
There is a not-so-slight difference in depth of talent. The Padres’ farm system had been ranked second in baseball coming into 2020 by five national raters. The Cardinals averaged 15th.
Absolutely the Padres have a better rated system. Still, the point was that they managed to acquire these guys from that depth rather than from their top players. That’s impressive.December 29, 2020 at 7:00 am #150683Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
Right. But my point is that the Cardinals could not have accomplished the same trades because I would guess that San Diego’s number 11-16 prospects are more comparable to the top 10 prospects in the Cardinals system you cited.
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