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October 24, 2023 at 4:58 pm #236244
According to just posted blurb on MLBtraderumors, Molina says 90% chance of getting a deal done with Cardinals. Says he had offers from Cardinals and Marlins in some capacity last year. Also mention Cardinals have local ties to Astro reliever Maton and speculate interest in re-signing Hicks. Unsurprisingly no mention of interest in reacquiring Genesis
October 24, 2023 at 5:47 pm #236247I don’t think they like Cabbie all that much. He probably doesn’t care for them too much either. I’d also guess that the off-season moral of the players that are still here is on the low side. That’s probably to be expected due to the Cardinal field manager flapping his jaw in reference to unnamed players being selfish and not focusing on winning baseball games or championships. I expect both he and Johnny will do more finger pointing over the winter months. That always helps and they’re both good at it.
October 24, 2023 at 5:47 pm #236248Hicks will be a FA but Cabrera would have to be traded for unless he gets non-tendered.
October 25, 2023 at 12:35 pm #23631714NyquisTParticipantI’d rather have Cabrera on the team than Hicks. Hicks = too much baggage. Genesis still has time to blossom.
October 25, 2023 at 1:22 pm #236319Seems like the bridges have been burned with Genesis, either by him, the team or both.
On Hicks, the Cards apparently weren’t willing to pay him what he feels he is worth when he was still a Cardinal. This fall, unless the market tells him the Cards’ offer was in fact good and he accepts it (if still on the table) or St. Louis improves its offer to a level he will accept, he won’t be back.
November 1, 2023 at 12:05 pm #236618I agree with this.
Bernie: The Cardinals Need To Be Challenged And Toughened Up. Sounds Like A Job For Yadier Molina. https://t.co/FL5qe5vMaz
— Bernie Miklasz (@miklasz) October 31, 2023
November 1, 2023 at 4:51 pm #236621I agree with it, too. But Yadi probably needs to hang around as a coach for awhile before taking over.
I’ve been wondering if this wasn’t part of a bigger plan all along. Yadi retires, Oli keeps the managers seat warm for a year or two, and then, when Yadi is ready, he takes over for Oli. Of course if the Cardinals had hit the jackpot with the Oli hiring, this all would have changed. I’ve also been wondering if hiring Oli wasn’t a way for the front office to sneak in a mini-rebuild. (I know I’m sounding like a conspiracy theorist, but what’s the difference when there’s nothing much else going on except the final round of a new set of playoff rounds called the ‘World Series’.) BTW, I like Oli. I hope his team wins a lot of games. I like the way he handles the rookies and the guys still trying to get traction at the MLB level. I’m just not sure he has figured out how to handle the veterans.
November 2, 2023 at 9:56 am #236657I don’t know if that was the masterplan or not. I kind of doubt it because that sounds too complicated for this front office to handle. Regardless, this team is soft and needs to toughen up. Yadi can do that.
November 20, 2023 at 1:11 pm #237662One thing is clear. With the addition of Daniel Descalso, Molina will not be the 2024 bench coach.
November 20, 2023 at 1:49 pm #237673November 20, 2023 at 3:33 pm #237696To be honest, I’m more excited about Descalso than Lynn.
November 20, 2023 at 5:21 pm #237713To be honest, I’m more excited about Descalso than Lynn.
Yep. Buggar is back!
November 20, 2023 at 5:30 pm #237715Glad to see Danny D. hired on as bench coach and I always thought it was a silly notion to ever imagine that Yadier Molina would have accepted that role with his former team.
November 21, 2023 at 6:39 am #237740So far this offseason has only registered 2.3 on my Yippee meter.
November 21, 2023 at 6:46 am #237742Do we know that DD has particular skills that make him the best person for the bench coach job?
A former player with one year of experience in a front office is the new top advisor for a first-time MLB manager in his third year. Both of them are 37 years old.
November 21, 2023 at 6:52 am #237743I was surprised they hired a TLR protege last time. But it made sense at least.
Now it looks like they hire a FO assistant to be bench coach, and make the outgoing bench coach a front office assistant. What?November 21, 2023 at 6:58 am #237744Remember that McEwing was a rush hire relatively late in the offseason after Holliday changed his mind. After a year of working together, they must want something different. My guess is they originally gave him a two-year contract so rather than eat his salary, they shift him to “other duties as assigned”. But that is just a guess.
As a general observation, the Cardinals clearly don’t value coaching experience the same way I do. But it’s their team.
November 21, 2023 at 7:09 am #237747They clearly didn’t pay any attention to the current defending World Champions. They cleaned out all of the inexperience field leadership and hired competent on field leadership and low and behold they are instant winners. I’m with BW they clearly don’t value coaching experience the same way I do. But it’s their team and they’ve made that more than clear.
November 21, 2023 at 7:45 am #237751As a cardinal fan for over 50 years it’s painful to see the team and its direction under Mozeliak.
November 21, 2023 at 8:45 am #237757The appearance is that ownership and the front office want field personnel that simply follow the directives sent down – no room for feedback – just a one way street.
It smells of a self-serving control freak.
November 21, 2023 at 9:01 am #237760Obviously a coaching staff position in this system does not call for a depth of knowledge, experience, intuition, perception and judgment. Its obvious why Maddux and Albert left.
November 21, 2023 at 9:11 am #237762Welcome, gilmore1011!
November 21, 2023 at 9:23 am #237766I have no real evidence or statistical data to back this up but I kind of like the Descalso hire. Call it a gut instinct but he seems like the studious, gritty type than might make a good manager someday.
November 21, 2023 at 10:09 am #237777Used to be that those questions would be answered in the minors rather than hoping for the best in the bigs. I never thought the day would come when managing experience in the minors seems to be a negative.
November 21, 2023 at 11:32 am #237788I never thought the day would come when managing experience in the minors seems to be a negative.
The ‘danger’ is that kind of experience might give him the idea he knows something. Mo clearly doesn’t want anyone who knows things.
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