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March 23, 2018 at 10:51 am #46124
just read that Munoz made the team and Bader to AAA
Lucas, Voit also optioned…maybe i forgot someone else too
so who is all left in the MLB camp?
March 23, 2018 at 11:11 am #4612514NyquisT
ParticipantJosh McDonald from Redbird Rants makes some amusing and BOLD predictions for the ’18 Cards. I find it strange that he still doesn’t predict a division crown if these very positive looks in a crystal ball come to fruition.
If you like Wainwright/Ozuna/Leone/Carpenter/Reyes/JMartinez and favor a major July roster addition, you’ll like reading this.
https://redbirdrants.com/2018/03/22/st-louis-cardinals-10-bold-predictions-2018/
March 23, 2018 at 11:22 am #4612614NyquisT
Participanthttps://www.mlb.com/news/yairo-munoz-makes-cardinals-opening-day-roster/c-269473436
These moves were becoming more apparent this past week so they shouldn’t come as a surprise. I think the roster is at 27.
March 23, 2018 at 11:44 am #46128So is Baron still theoretically “up”?
Brebbia vs Mayers for the last pen spot unless Gregerson goes on the 10 day
still interesting to figure out who will be pushed out to make room for Pena
March 23, 2018 at 12:41 pm #46131NJ315
ParticipantWho is condemning any of them?
March 23, 2018 at 1:02 pm #46135March 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm #46136so we really dont’ have any true OF guy on the bench right now..nice call FO
March 23, 2018 at 1:18 pm #46139A check of the Roster Matrix identifies every player remaining in camp.
March 23, 2018 at 1:21 pm #46140I don’t get your concern, Onxygem.
Please explain why a combination of Jose Martinez, Yairo Munoz and Greg Garcia to cover if needed in the OF for part of one game at most would not be satisfactory. If Pham is hurt, Fowler moves to center. If there was an injury, Bader would be up the next day.
Sometimes I think people who don’t like the front office complain above every move, just because they can.
March 23, 2018 at 1:39 pm #46146Honestly because none of them are even in the same time zone defensively as Bader is and honestly none should be ANY Time whatever so ever in the OF….same as Adams should have never been in the out but MM was to dumb to see what everybody else knew.
March 23, 2018 at 1:44 pm #46149I bet you did not know that Jose Martinez started more games in the outfield last season than he did at first base. How about them apples?
The other guys (Munoz and Garcia) are emergency OF options only.
Matt Adams is irrelevant to this discussion. His 2018 parallel, Luke Voit, was already sent down.
March 23, 2018 at 1:48 pm #46151Doesn’t mean Martinez was ANY good in the OF….
March 23, 2018 at 2:11 pm #46154While I don’t share the same level of concern about outfield coverage like Onyxgem (arms more so). I think everyone saw last season how average Martinez was in LF and absolutely horrid he was in RF. Now all that said he had been working With McGee in the offseason in the OF. So maybe some things have changed to get his bat in OF a little more in the OF if needed.
Munoz appears to handle the OF fine. Yes he’s no Bader but his bat I would argue is going to end up being more productive in a PT vs LHP roll.
March 23, 2018 at 2:33 pm #46159Every decision requires tradeoffs to be made. A very good case could be made in favor of either Munoz or Bader. Therefore, it makes no sense whatsoever to label one or the other as being dramatically better or worse than the other. They are just different. Good reasons for both clearly exist, even if some of the reasons are less important than the others in your personal opinion.
You value OF defense over a better backup SS and a more versatile player overall with a hotter bat currently.
March 23, 2018 at 2:42 pm #46160IMHO we already have Garcia as out back up MI guy and if they are going to keep him they need a true OF guy to be the other bench guy….not a guy if they really need he can play there….makes no sense
March 23, 2018 at 2:50 pm #46163It only makes no sense because you personally value the defense of the outfield reserve over everything else. Just because you have a strong opinion does not make it right and the other choice wrong.
March 23, 2018 at 2:55 pm #46166Bader would be on the team if the team didn’t double down on their incompetence for insisting an 8-man bullpen.
March 23, 2018 at 2:56 pm #46167Well you sure acting like you are right and I am wrong and you are no more right than I am and we all know MM doens’t have a CLUE how to run a team he keeps showing that the last few years now!
March 23, 2018 at 3:40 pm #46181Like I said multiple times, what is “right” is that both players have strengths to offer. If you cannot see that, then yes, you are wrong.
So you think Matheny is the one who sets the roster. I will leave this discussion on that.
March 23, 2018 at 6:09 pm #46191Munoz has played very well, but I would rather have seen Bader make the team due to the injury history of Fowler and more so, Pham. The fact that Jose Martinez can play a corner outfield spot doesn’t make me feel much better. Jmart seems less likely to get hurt if he plays mostly first. Now it comes down to Brebbia versus Mayers for the last spot.
March 23, 2018 at 6:21 pm #46194Fair, C27, but the longest impact of short OF coverage following an injury to Fowler or Pham would be part of one game. And one could easily argue that Bader would be more ready to step into a starting role and do well by playing every day at Memphis until then.
Like I said, I could support either side – Munoz or Bader.
March 23, 2018 at 6:33 pm #46196NJ315
ParticipantSo who plays center in case Pham can’t for a day or two? Is it Fowler? Hopefully Pham can play most days but he does have a history of getting hurt. Other than scenario Munoz was the right choice IMO.
March 23, 2018 at 7:41 pm #46205Fowler played CF all last season. Surely he could handle a few innings without a major incident. How often did Pham get hurt in 2017 and miss time?
Also, Munoz has 20 career games in CF and is said to be good there. In fact, Matheny said SS and CF are his two best positions.
March 23, 2018 at 7:46 pm #46206
jj-cf-stlParticipantif it comes down to brebbia vs mayer for the last pen spot, brebbia earned it last season, mayers didn’t. mayers had opportunities last season too, when it counted, and didn’t cash in on them.
March 23, 2018 at 8:10 pm #46207Ozuna is a better defensive center fielder than Fowler
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