July 20, 2020 at 6:44 pm #133176Cardinals27ParticipantPaid - Annual
I’d assume most would get AAA pay. Oviedos last level was AA, so maybe AA pay for him if he was chosen. Also, I would think the team should pay for room and board, but as cheap as MLB has acted, who knows?July 20, 2020 at 7:33 pm #133178
I believe the 108.50 is to cover room and board.July 20, 2020 at 9:23 pm #133183
The taxi squad players get paid at the rate of their minor league contract as signed. Yes, the $108.50 is on top as a per diem. I believe the team covers their hotel room charges, however.July 21, 2020 at 5:15 am #133188
Brian, can you explain “minor league contract as signed”? I thought pay was dependent on level for minor leaguers not based on a contract amount (unless they were a minor league FA)
108.50 + hotel will be a windfall for many of the guys who have never seen the major leagues.July 21, 2020 at 7:11 am #133189
There are minimum salaries defined per level, but not all players in all organizations are paid the minimum. For example, some guys have split contracts that pay them a certain amount if they are in the majors and a much lesser amount if they are in the minors. For salary and benefits (like service time and associated free agency and pension qualification), the taxi squad is the same as the minors. (The only exception seems to be the per diem.) Unfortunately, there is not a database of minor league player salaries like for MLB we can reference. I am sure they like it that way…July 21, 2020 at 4:49 pm #133231
Very few if any split contract players have never played in the majors or at least on the 40 man roster.
What does a contract as signed look like for a player like Oviedo ? Wouldn’t he most likely have a standard contract that pays him based on his level. If so, the question is what level are they using for the base pay while in Springfield? Or maybe they are treating it as Spring training (no compensation) and only paying per diem.July 21, 2020 at 9:57 pm #133250
The alternate camps are considered like the minor leagues. Players are paid according to the minor league contract that was set for/with them before all this happened. My guess is that Oviedo will be paid like a Double-A pitcher. If his deal is at or above the minimum, we do not know.
(Reminder that even the minor league players remaining at home this season are being paid $400 per week.)
FWIW, I am surprised you are so confident about the history of split contracts, since that info is hard to come by. But it is not central to this discussion. In the case of Oviedo, it could not apply, since he is not even on the 40-man yet.July 22, 2020 at 9:54 am #133258
I don’t know yet about the Cardinals. In a normal minor league season, housing is not covered.
More mistreatment of MiLBers: Some MLB teams are not paying for housing for MiLB players in the 60-man pool. They also aren't paying salaries yet (just the $400/wk stipend). That means some MiLB players are losing money right now by being in that pool of players.
— Garrett Broshuis (@broshuis) July 22, 2020July 24, 2020 at 12:52 pm #133524
The Cardinals have already committed to cover salaries through what would have been the regular minor league season, but one-third of the teams have no plans yet beyond this month. Their players have no idea if their pay will stop this coming week, but rents are still due. Tough situation.
Baseball is back. Now it’s time to support your Minor Leaguers. Extend the stipends. pic.twitter.com/8ge2J6DvHI
— Advocates for Minor Leaguers (@MiLBAdvocates) July 24, 2020August 11, 2020 at 12:42 pm #134922August 12, 2020 at 1:40 pm #134994
This is huge news for minor leaguers. Some rare good news for them. Much less so for organizations.
Minor leaguers with seven years of service time WILL be granted free agency this winter despite no 2020 season.
— Baseball America (@BaseballAmerica) August 12, 2020August 12, 2020 at 7:07 pm #135008Cardinals27ParticipantPaid - Annual
Unless the Cards resign them, Derian Gonzales, Dobzanski, and Santos are likely free agents. I would particularly miss Gonzalez who pitched with Fernandez, Helsley, and Woodford at Peoria, a particular group that I liked. I thought Gonzalez might rebound from injuries in 2020, but Covid19 said otherwise.August 19, 2020 at 7:26 pm #135969October 5, 2020 at 9:16 am #143802
Big news for Minor Leaguers in our case trying to get them paid at least minimum wage: The Supreme Court denied MLB's request to take the case, with the issue being whether the case remains a class action. We will finally be back to the trial court soon.
— Garrett Broshuis (@broshuis) October 5, 2020October 5, 2020 at 2:03 pm #143817
To be eligible to be part of this lawsuit, MiLB players must have participated in spring training/extended spring or instructs in Fla. or Ariz. after Feb. 7, 2009 and have not signed an MLB contract before then. In other words, almost every MiLB player for 11 years qualifies. https://t.co/m3HPPJwz5m
— JJ Cooper (@jjcoop36) October 5, 2020November 13, 2020 at 8:34 am #147245
This is another one of those “should have done it a long time ago” items. In this case, minor league players, many of them making sub-minimum wage themselves, will no longer have their salaries taxed to pay clubhouse attendants. As it should have been all along, the MLB teams will pay their “clubbies”.
MLB is proposing eliminating dues for minor leaguers in 2021 and beyond.@jjcoop36 explains their plan, and how it will affect clubbies as well.
Full story: https://t.co/rRfcVm0Npd
— Baseball America (@BaseballAmerica) November 13, 2020June 12, 2021 at 9:15 am #163729
Multiple St. Louis Cardinals Minor Leaguers tell us they lose money when their team plays home games.
While the players make less than $72/day, the team hotel plus two meals costs them roughly $75/day—if not more.
The Cardinals should raise salaries or pay for the team hotel.
— Advocates for Minor Leaguers (@MiLBAdvocates) June 10, 2021
The P-D reported about this without naming the source of the concern and apparently did not contact them for more details. But they got the team’s reaction.
Mo’s reply to the P-D:
“We’re going to have to take a closer look,” said John Mozeliak, president of baseball operations, on Friday at Wrigley. “And we’ll see if there’s a better way to help this group.”
As a reminder, minor leaguers have no collective representation recognized by MLB.June 12, 2021 at 12:18 pm #163747gscottarParticipantPaid - Annual
I know the Cardinals aren’t the only team trying to get by on the cheap but this is not good. These young minor leaguers deserve to have a couple of decent meals per day and a decent place to sleep without losing money. Most of these young guys didn’t get the big signing bonus.June 12, 2021 at 9:04 pm #163799
Never have heard of team staying in hotel while playing home games.June 13, 2021 at 11:21 am #163841
Never had a COVID epidemic before.February 12, 2022 at 7:39 am #179952
Sadly, minor league matters are ignored in the CBA negotiations. But the lawsuits seeing back pay continue.
MLB’s position in court:
“It is the players that obtain the greater benefit from the training opportunities that they are afforded than the clubs, who actually just incur the cost of having to provide that training,” said Elise Bloom of Proskauer Rose, a firm that is also advising MLB in its lockout of major league players. “During the training season, the players are not employees, and would not be subject to either the Fair Labor Standards Act or any state minimum wage act.”
So, during spring training, players are not team employees? How can anyone argue this with a straight face? Is there any wonder players mistrust ownership? It begins in the cradle.
MLB argues for minor leaguers to stay unpaid in spring training: "It is the players that obtain the greater benefit from the training opportunities that they are afforded than the clubs, who actually just incur the cost of having to provide that training” https://t.co/md2BqNjr0X
— Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) February 12, 2022February 12, 2022 at 9:01 am #179956ZTRParticipantFree
We can argue tit for tat over MLB players-owners all day long but I don’t think any reasonable person would say that minor league players haven’t been horribly abused.
I hope these kids get some relief and a fair shake.February 13, 2022 at 9:41 am #179976
I guess I am not a reasonable person then!February 15, 2022 at 8:12 am #180017
One former MLB player is showing support of the minor leaguers.
This is ROUGHLY what it costs an MLB team to pay out a full minor league system of players making minimum salary.
(Dominican summer league rosters have 35 players making 3,000$ a season. That’s an extra 105,000$) pic.twitter.com/Uz5qfBfrhX
— Dallas Braden (@DALLASBRADEN209) February 15, 2022February 15, 2022 at 9:09 am #180021
Not being able to afford a doctor’s co-pay. Begging for charity. Working 3 jobs & couch surfing. Choosing between feeding your family & going to your team’s camp.
20 current & former minor leaguers open up on brutal offseasons & a system against them: https://t.co/RewZbloBJX
— Britt Ghiroli (@Britt_Ghiroli) February 15, 2022
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