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March 18, 2022 at 10:28 pm #181030
Should it be time to take a good long look at the Training regimen of the healthy and rehabbing Pitchers on this Team. Every year starts the same. Is not just this Team either.
March 19, 2022 at 1:16 am #181034Just hoping he doesn’t become our Mark Prior
March 19, 2022 at 6:32 am #181036Jack posted this on Instagram last night (regarding a tweet he sent out) referring to the slap tear mentioned by the front office. As reported above, the inflammation related to his oblique strain last year is the bigger concern. pic.twitter.com/uPjOuquqZI
— Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) March 19, 2022
March 19, 2022 at 6:39 am #181038Should it be time to take a good long look at the Training regimen of the healthy and rehabbing Pitchers on this Team.
I think the damage is done before the player reaches the professional level. My hunch is that what has changed since the old days is the competitive environment within the subset of youth baseball programs that attract youngsters making a push to get noticed and drafted. A kid who has performed at a level which gets noticed has already damaged his growing and maturing arm in the process.
March 19, 2022 at 10:00 am #181050I think you are right bling.
Sometimes the youth teams use only 2 starters and of course the coaches and parents are all-in to win that picnic table league championship hanging on every pitch like it is game 7 of the World Series – heaping abuse on basically volunteer umpires getting paid may be $25 / game and otherwise living vicariously through their ‘gonna go pro’ son.
March 19, 2022 at 10:25 am #181053ZTR reminds me of an interview with Seaver years ago where they were discussing young arms being abused, overused, and throwing 120 Pitches in a night, curveballs ruining their arms. He agreed then when the interviewer asked if he was treated that way. he said he had, and that he had thrown curveballs since he was 8. I can’t totally agree that the blame goes to youth Coaches. Every player in MLB had one. And have for years. There were guts playing 70 -80 games a year when I was a kid. That was back in the 50’s, 60’s.
March 19, 2022 at 11:05 am #181055I went through HS in the mid 70s. I was not brought up in that over the top baseball culture but knew some guys who were. I knew a kid whose arm was always sore, 24/7. In little league he far and away threw harder than anyone else. His dad was his coach and pushed him relentlessly year after year. He went on to a different HS so I don’t know how things turned out for him after that, but he was throwing max effort heaters and curveballs in little league. I got hit by one once and it was no joke.
March 19, 2022 at 3:56 pm #181066I wonder if the injuries to Flaherty and Reyes will impact their upcoming arbitration salaries for 2022. Normally the arbitration salaries would have been decided by now but that is not the case this year due to the lockout.
March 19, 2022 at 3:59 pm #181067This seasons ST injuries will not have any effect. Their salaries are based on criteria up to the end of 2021.
March 19, 2022 at 4:43 pm #181068Arb figures are exchanged next week. The Schwartz projections on MLBTR is Reyes $3.2 and Flaherty $5.1.
Either might contribute at some point this year, or might not. My feeling is that neither has much runway left in STL. Trade value is in the toilet I would think.
March 19, 2022 at 4:56 pm #181069. . . Jack Flaherty and Alex Reyes would seem to be out for months, not weeks
Rick Hummel in his Notebook article this morning.
March 19, 2022 at 5:52 pm #181071This reminds me of the year 2011, right around this time of year. Spoiler alert–Adam Wainwright didn’t pitch a single inning that year. We did win a championship
March 20, 2022 at 12:15 am #181082Wow Hummel said months is more likely than weeks? Reyes’ loss could be absorbed. Flaherty’s loss could not.
That is some brutal news to start out with.
March 20, 2022 at 7:51 am #181087Flaherty emphasized again this morning that his SLAP tear was preexisting for “a handful of years” and hasn’t previously caused him any issue. Said the current inflammation is unrelated.
— Jeff Jones (@jmjones) March 20, 2022
March 20, 2022 at 9:04 pm #181117BenFred: Every spring, it seems to get harder to envision Flaherty and Cardinals front office sticking together https://t.co/EqpR35kroG
— STLToday Sports News (@STL_SportsNews) March 21, 2022
April 1, 2022 at 12:27 pm #181639Anybody got any updates on Mr. Flaherty? Been over a week and haven’t heard anything.
April 1, 2022 at 1:00 pm #181640Rats, we will know more when Flaherty is officially placed on the IL. This has to be done by Opening Day. If it is the 60-day, that would be a much more concerning event.
April 1, 2022 at 5:25 pm #181660Speaking of injuries, Jacob DeGrom shut down. Will not throw for four weeks. No timetable for his return.
April 11, 2022 at 3:25 pm #182252Any news regarding Mr. Flaherty at this point?
April 13, 2022 at 8:22 am #182391Bump. The Mikolas/Matz/Hudson starts unfortunately made this a more pressing issue.
April 16, 2022 at 2:49 pm #182572#STLCards RHP Jack Flaherty back out on the field throwing at “120-ish feet” — as he put it yesterday — for a second day in a row. Flaherty reported progress in his right shoulder and is encouraged with how his rehabilitation is going.
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) April 16, 2022
April 28, 2022 at 3:58 pm #183714Jack Flaherty threw out to 240 feet yesterday for the first time in his throwing program and is recovering w/o issue.
Jordan Hicks is set to toss today after taking a comebacker off the wrist in his previous start. He remains optimistic about making his next start. #STLCards
— Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) April 28, 2022
April 28, 2022 at 4:33 pm #183727Well that’s hooray worthy news, BW. Any idea what a timetable looks like for Flaherty? Two weeks? Two months?
April 29, 2022 at 12:56 am #183797It is a guess, but I think the earliest possible return would be 4 to 6 eeeks, if all goes well. He can rehab in the minors for a month, right?
April 29, 2022 at 8:31 am #183816Flaherty is gonna be like our big trade deadline acquisition.
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