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The Rays are typically so smart. What do they see in Matz that is different from what he gave us the last four years?
Nothing new here from the situation over the last two years. When it is convenient for Molina to stop by, he will.
#Cardinals continue to talk with Yadier Molina about having a role with club in upcoming year. That could include some time in uniform as a coach, some cameos in the dugout like this past season.
All sides remain interested in building on those brief visits, Marmol's invitation. pic.twitter.com/CjG32NPqvo
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) December 9, 2025
25, maybe they signed Matz based off 2025 results, with a lower expectation of innings than our signing. His splits are holding up. Curious on the financials.
Yadi and the org rubs me the wrong way with the cameo photo op/marketing gimmick hustle. He lacks commitment and neither the team nor the fans should kiss his but.
I imagine the Cardinals will take whatever they get from him, rather than seeing him line up with another organization. The media also fans the flames that there is more to it than there really is, IMO.
The Rays are typically so smart. What do they see in Matz that is different from what he gave us the last four years?
They probably see that as a reliever he can be effective. Trying to make him a starter is just asking for trouble because you know the trip to the IL is imminent. This is two times in a row that Matz scored a deal on a nice walk year.
The Rays tend to look at it as IP. They do whatever they want a let the press decide on “opener”, “starter” or “reliever” 😀
Fangraphs has Matz 25′ value at 8.9milFangraphs has Matz 25′ value at 8.9mil
Then the Rays must be thinking that they got a pretty good deal. I always admired the Rays for being a well run organization. In trying to understand, I can only say that ‘anyone can make a mistake’. This is a move that may actually cause attendance to go further down for the Rays.
Injury risk probably doesn”t factor in to fangraphs valuation imo. Maybe we will find out how the Rays like eating contract. Or maybe once attrition sets in this spring they flip him to somebody whose rotation imploded.
I’m going to see if I can find the phone number for the Rays front office. I’m going to talk them into giving ME 15 millions bucks. I bet they’ll do it. These Winter Meetings have turned into a clown show. Now lets see what happens this afternoon with the Rule 5.
Matz was good for us in 25′ and better w/Boston. That’s a good ballpark signing for Matz, off of a good platform season. The pitcher IL time is a roll of the dice.
Siani was not released. He was DFAed and placed on outright waivers. Now claimed by LAD.
The Dodgers have claimed outfielder Mike Siani off waivers from the Atlanta Braves, the team announced.
— Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) December 12, 2025
OF Lane Thomas and the Royals are reportedly in agreement on a contract. pic.twitter.com/R0rQFT9yjg
— MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) December 11, 2025
Mariners Working On Deal With Andrew Knizner https://t.co/iBIYcGxFzy pic.twitter.com/192nldbvuD
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) December 12, 2025
Phillies, Adolis Garcia Reportedly Agree To One-Year Deal https://t.co/HMF5KhYpBD pic.twitter.com/jEUaMNAHZj
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) December 15, 2025
The Dodgers now owe over $1B in deferred money…. Wow. Edman is part of that which is why I put this here. Supposedly they “paid for Ohtani” and his $700m in year one.
Technically that is true but I think it is more complex than that. It is my understanding that MLB teams have to set aside deferred money in a separate account within two years of when it is earned. So it isn’t like the Dodgers are going to have to come up with $1B in “new money” ten years from now. That money will be sitting there in a separate account. The benefit to the team for doing so it that the money will be earning interest for them for ten years and the value of the money will be different a decade from now.
MLB should tighten the rules on deferred money, tighten the rules on the CBT to where it is more like a salary cap, and they should install a salary floor.
The odds of Manfred and the MLBPA agrreing to all of that are extremely low which is why we are headed to a lockout a year from now.
I stand corrected. Good luck Rays.
Over/Under on first trip to IL? June 1 or July 1?
Steven Matz To Compete For Rotation Spot With Rays https://t.co/tshmIsOqBw pic.twitter.com/FzpaIH4tfN
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) December 17, 2025
“It is my understanding that MLB teams have to set aside deferred money in a separate account within two years of when it is earned. So it isn’t like the Dodgers are going to have to come up with $1B in “new money” ten years from now.”
Interesting. I would think that the deferred money is shown on the balance sheet at the present value of the future payments. Thus the only actual cash needed is whatever is required for current obligations.
But most professional baseball teams are privately owned, so they may have some different ways of reporting and perhaps the industry has specific requirements like the “2 years cash” deal.
This is what I got from a quick Google search:
MLB deferred contracts let teams spread out massive player salaries over decades, reducing current cash impact and luxury tax hits by paying players after the contract ends, but the present value counts against the tax now; the team puts money into escrow, earning interest, with the player receiving the full (interest-adjusted) amount later, creating payroll flexibility for the team to sign more stars, as seen with Ohtani’s massive deferral for the Dodgers.
How it Works
Agreement: A player agrees to receive a portion of their salary later (e.g., 10-20 years after the deal ends).
Present Value (PV): The total deferred amount isn’t what’s paid later; it’s discounted for time and interest (typically 5% annually in the CBA). The present value is what’s counted against the current year’s Luxury Tax.
Funding: The team must set aside the present value of the deferred money into a secure, interest-bearing account (escrow) within a set timeframe (e.g., two years after earning).
Payout: The player receives the full, original amount (plus accumulated interest) in the future, often long after retirement, while the team earns interest on the funds in escrow.Benefits for Teams (like the Dodgers)
Payroll Flexibility: Reduces immediate cash outlay, allowing them to sign more star players within luxury tax limits.
Luxury Tax Management: Lowers the Average Annual Value (AAV) for luxury tax purposes during the contract’s active years.
Investment Income: Teams profit from the interest earned on the escrowed funds before paying the player.Example: Shohei Ohtani & Dodgers
Ohtani’s $700M deal had $680M deferred over 10 years after his 10-year playing contract. He gets $2M/year now, but the Dodgers must fund the present value of the deferred $68M each year, a much smaller, but still significant, amount that counts on the books now.Another minor-league signing with invite to spring training for the Brewers: LHP Drew Rom, a 26-yo fourth-round pick of the Orioles in 2018.
Started eight games for the Cardinals in 2023 for his only MLB experience — 1-4, 8.02 ERA, WHIP of 2.08.
— Todd Rosiak (@Todd_Rosiak) December 17, 2025
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