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I didn't see Wainwright throw at all tonight, so I have no idea how he *looked,* visually.
But his inning-by-inning four-seam velo data is… concerning, one might say. Me, for example.
91.8
89.4
87.3
86.2 pic.twitter.com/oSvfOusTNN— Mike Petriello (@mike_petriello) April 6, 2018
“If you can’t fix it, feature it!”
Wainwright, Matheny were not surprised by this because the righthander tried to "tone it back" in an attempt to get more movement and greater command over a pitch that started failing him in the second inning. #stlcards https://t.co/AlHnaWYo1U
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) April 6, 2018
If Waino doesn’t improve soon someone needs to intervene and move him to the pen and bring Flaherty back up. I know he has had a wonderful career here and deserves to be treated with respect but should we allow his failed starts to cost us a chance at a playoff spot? It might even cost Matheny his job. You would think MM would consider that.
The bullpen is already jammed up and three relievers are waiting to come back. Give Wainwright a chance to get get it right. If not,???
Does Hicks project as a starter or a reliever? We have Flaherty more than ready to step in…. and a couple more by mid-season. Will Wainwright be able to fend off all of those challenges? If he can’t it would be tough for him to die on the vine in St. Louis. Just saying now…. does he have any trade value?
I think Hicks should stay as a reliever personally. I’ve long though that though. Helsley should too. Helsley would instantly be the best minor league bullpen arm (other than Holland) if he were to move to that role.
Brian:
I have a question and I couldn’t find the right thread so I chose this one about pitchers.
IF Alex Reyes is on the 60 day DL does that mean he can’t appear in any games?
I’m confused because I thought he was getting ready to be up here in June.
I could have easily misunderstood so I need you to clariy things for me, please
Nate asked: “IF Alex Reyes is on the 60 day DL does that mean he can’t appear in any games?”
It depends on what you mean by “any games”.
If you mean MLB games, the answer is “yes”. However, he is almost certainly going to be pitching in extended spring training games right away. Then, during May, he will be officially assigned to a minor league team, likely Palm Beach first, on a minor league rehab stint while still on the 60-day DL.
Read an article where Mo is quoted as saying putting Reyes on the 60 day DL doesnt change the timing much on his return. This after saying they expected to activate him in early May and now the earliest will be May 28th. I hate it when they act like fans are stupid.
And this is why I am very cynical of anything the front office says. Mo is known for his doublespeak and changing the ‘truth’ whenever he needs.
Well, there is no need to throw out the entire baby with the bathwater, BHC. You just need to better calibrate your BS meter, as it is not all created equal. 😉
“It isn’t like Martinez or Wacha’s first starts of the season were much better”
lets be fair..cmart got squeezed a on his first start, as did syndargarrd..but from a velo standpoint there isnt a real comparison there..waino seems to be in a full slide
he should get a few more starts but if everything remains the same im sad to say he belongs in the pen, a justin verlander style revival doesnt seem to be realistic at this point
wainwright needs the 8th reliever role, the one where MM pretends you are there to pitch, but instead just rides the pine.
I don’t know if the brass is ready to remove him just yet but if he has an issue with his control like he did Thursday in his next few starts he’s going to end up either back on the DL or moved to the pen. I don’t think they would just flat out move him to the pen though. More like DL stint, then hey be the long man and then get buried at the back end due to one of the Young guns stepping up.
Also he’s just been awful against left-handed hitting the last 3 seasons. 4 walks in the season opener.
I remember LaRussa stating that one of the hardest aspects of being a manager was dealing with an aging, declining veteran who had previously been a star and trying to figure out the best way for them to ease out in a classy manner without damaging the team. This is what we are witnessing with Wainwright.
A reminder of other factors in players’ lives…
My girls don’t want me to go to the field today…. pic.twitter.com/SfkOSwpiJl
— Adam Wainwright (@UncleCharlie50) April 9, 2018
Sorry, but no sympathy here. Do athletes think they are the only ones that have families? That have famy seperation due to work obligations? These guys are spoiled primo dannos.
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