August 9, 2022 at 10:01 am #194653
Knowing what we know now about our minor league players, who do the Cards protect that are eligible for the Rule 5 draft this December? With the Rule 5 being cancelled last year, more players will be available this year and could be a more active draft. Very interested in your thoughts on who will be protected and who will be left off and available.
I’ll start with a few potentials to be protected:
Pinder?August 9, 2022 at 10:45 am #194663
No top 10 prospects in the system that are no brainers. I would also add Julio Rodriguez to that list to be considered.
For reference, last year’s additions were Donovan, Walsh and Pacheco. (Yepez was added a month early.)
Among those passed over were Plummer (who left the org), Baker, Perez, Robertson, Torres, Rodriguez, etc.
Note that hitters are a more difficult Rule 5 pick to remain with their claiming team all season while pitchers can be buried in a bullpen. Therefore, teams may protect more pitchers than hitters who are on the bubble.August 9, 2022 at 10:46 am #194664
I dont consider Baker and Dunn realistic candidates.
I add Rodriguez tô your list. He is OPSing around .850 and lost tô minor league FA if not added.
Cards have tô decide what tô do with Perez. OPSing .800+ in AAA só far. They probably need an infielder with options só they probably either keeps Robertson or add Perez.
Right now I think Gomez is the only near sure add.August 9, 2022 at 10:54 am #194666MrperkinsParticipantFree
Paniagua has to be added. We can’t let the Padres try to restock their system by taking our guys and ruining them again.August 9, 2022 at 11:02 am #194669
I believe Del Perez can be a free agent if not added this year. I agree with you CC, that either he or Robertson will need to be kept unless they make other additions in the offseason. Might be some interesting players available from other teams via Rule 5!August 9, 2022 at 11:05 am #194670
Or they could just get another Spangenberg…August 9, 2022 at 11:15 am #194671
Well Spangenberg didnt actually set Memphis on fire as well as not being a middle infielder. But the real problem is if called up would then need a 40 msn roster spot. If played well during the injured player’s IL stint would probably not pass through waivers if sent back down. Doable but not ideal.August 9, 2022 at 11:18 am #194672
Agreed. Depends on who they might get and how they want to manage the 40-man. A lot of moving parts to consider.
(Spangenberg has played almost 1200 innings over parts of six seasons in the majors as a second baseman.)August 9, 2022 at 11:23 am #194673
Without any DFA’s we really only have two spots
But 3 guys off the 60 day IL
+ a spot tô re-sign Waino only leaves two spots.
Possible DFA candidates
Stratton (non tender)August 9, 2022 at 12:19 pm #194678
Paniaugua, Thomas, and Gomez make the most sense. I’d be on the fence about Pinder, although I’d like to see him moved up to AAA. And as was noted above, there are many DFA and non tender candidates.August 9, 2022 at 1:00 pm #194680
I like Thomas but can he contribute all year tô a big league team next year? I dont see his ceiling as high enough someone would stash him as a 13th pitcher just for mop up. I dont ser him contributing in STL next year. Would like tô keeps him but wont cry if we lose him and I really doubt he sticks somewhere all next yearAugust 9, 2022 at 1:23 pm #194687
I like Thomas’ stats versus lefties. 36.1 innings, 35 hits allowed, 2 walks and 42 Ks. I think some team would draft him. He almost made the big club out of spring training. He’s much better than McFarland.August 9, 2022 at 1:34 pm #194688CardsFanInChiTownParticipantFree
Paniagua is one I’m worried about, a team like the Reds, Pirates, etc would love him in mop up duty.August 9, 2022 at 1:59 pm #194690
I think Paniauguas addition is damn near a lock.August 9, 2022 at 2:00 pm #19469114NyquisTParticipant
C-27 I agree with that.August 9, 2022 at 2:24 pm #194694gscottarParticipantPaid - Annual
Possible DFA candidates
Stratton (non tender)
There are 3 million reasons why VerHagen will almost certainly be back on the 40 man roster.August 9, 2022 at 4:43 pm #194704
Verhagen will likely be back. The only hope we have is that his injury was why he was terrible. Romero has options, so I doubt he is DFAd.August 9, 2022 at 5:45 pm #194715
Is there an example of an A level pitcher taken in Rule 5 and sticking on the MLB roster all year?August 9, 2022 at 5:51 pm #194716
I can only remember Luis Perdomo being taken by the Padres from the Cards. I believe he stayed all year. But he was not successful, and is on the Brewers DL.August 9, 2022 at 5:53 pm #194717forsch31ParticipantFree
bling, the Cardinals had Luis Perdomo selected by the Colorado Rockies after the 2015 season. He had never pitched above A+ ball and spent the entire 2016 season with the San Diego Padres in their bullpen. The Padres purchased Perdomo on the same day the Rockies selected him in the rule V draft.
EDIT. 27, you beat me to the point while I was typing.August 9, 2022 at 5:56 pm #194718
In fact, I was thinking the Cards had 2 Luis Perdomos that were picked up in Rule 5 drafts. I can’t remember the details on. LP2, though?August 9, 2022 at 6:27 pm #194722
Thanks for the info. I agree it will be interesting to see what happens.
It stands to reason that with all 30 organizations having fewer MiLB roster slots, and having to move players up to clear space in the lower rosters, there should be AAAA types loose and to be had as we head into spring. So there wouldn’t be a need to carry that type player on the 40 man into the off season. It seems like there were people to be had this past spring.August 9, 2022 at 6:34 pm #194723
I did some quick research. In 2008 the Cardinals traded Anthony Reyes to Cleveland for a Luis Perdomo. He was subsequently taken in Rule 5 that December by San Fran. He got in a few MLB innings with San Diego and Minnesota.August 9, 2022 at 8:30 pm #194757
The two Luis Perdomos are cousins. The first one was lost to San Francisco in the 2008 Rule 5. The second went to the Padres in 2015. Both were in the Major League Phase. Neither was returned to the Cardinals.
(See Page 247-251 in The Cardinal Nation’s 2022 Prospect Guide for the organization’s Rule 5 history!)August 10, 2022 at 8:49 am #194849
Another name to consider keeping around is Parsons. Putting up decent numbers this year. He will be attractive to pitching needy teams.
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