November 18, 2020 at 5:02 pm #147689
Cubs beat writer sees big moves ahead.
— 101 ESPN St. Louis (@101espn) November 18, 2020November 18, 2020 at 5:16 pm #147690forsch31ParticipantFree
So during the last 6 years, the Cubs:
– won 505 games
– won 1 WS
– appeared in 1 WS
– appeared in 3 NL CS
– finished with more wins than the Cardinals in 4 seasons
– won 478 games
– won 0 WS
– appeared in 0 WS
– appeared in 2 NL CS
– finished with more wins than the Cubs in 2 seasons
So Theo’s tanking and rebuild wasn’t really all that successful when compared to the Cardinals. He can claim an average of 4.5 wins a season more in the last 6 years and 1 more WS. Yet, they are staring at a rebuild of their team just like the Cardinals. However, the Cardinals have a farm system to rebuild with. The Cubs don’t.
One thing the Cardinals can say that the Cubs can’t: they only have 1 losing record season in the last 20 years. In the last 10, the Cardinals have no losing record seasons while the Cubs have 4.November 18, 2020 at 5:20 pm #147691bccranParticipantPaid - Annual
As a Cardinal fan, I hope the Cards beat the
Cubs every time out. On a personal basis, I hope Jed does well.November 18, 2020 at 9:14 pm #147701
I hope the Cardinals beat the Cubs every time out also. Trust me there isn’t another team I would rather beat.
Having said that I don’t expect they are going to crash and burn. They literally just won the division so dancing on their grave seems premature to me.
I don’t build the Cubs up because I like them. I despise them but I believe it is wiser to be prepared for a tough battle than to get cocky and come up short.November 20, 2020 at 2:07 pm #147833
Theo Epstein Next Employer
MLB as Commissioner 5/1
**Note: Must be hired by 12/31/21 for action.November 20, 2020 at 4:32 pm #147841
Nats considering making a run at a Bryant trade.November 21, 2020 at 12:08 pm #147894
The Cubs are in an interesting position. If they are truly making everyone available then I assume they would listen on Bryant, Rizzo, Baez, Schwarber, Contreras, Heyward, Darvish, Hendricks, and Kimbrel.
The first four names on the list would be appealing to other teams but they only have one year of control left so that would diminish the returns somewhat. Contreras should fetch a nice return while Darvish and Hendricks should be able to fetch a big haul. They would have to eat a lot of money to move Heyward and Kimbrel.
The bottom line is that the Cubs may take a step back in 2021 but in doing so they are going to be bringing back a lot of younger talent and free up a lot of payroll space, which means they could turn right around and spend big on other elite players. I don’t think they will be down for long.
The Cardinals will need to be prepared go big in 2022 to match them.November 21, 2020 at 2:04 pm #147901stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
Gscottar, I think you’re overestimating the return the Cubs would get from those guys. While they may be able to build a decent farm from trades and then buy some free agents, it’s not like all the guys they’ll get back will be MLB ready by 2022. Bottom line, the Cubs won’t be back to championship quality for probably 3 years at best. If the Cards don’t blow it next year, they should be in year 2 of their championship window before Chicago may be back.November 21, 2020 at 2:23 pm #147904
Well I guess we shall see. It depends if they seek players close to being MLB ready or not. Regardless, they will open up quite a bit of payroll room. Also, we don’t know how Hoyer will operate. It has been awhile since he was the top guy. He might be a little different than Theo.
November 23, 2020 at 10:46 am #148017
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From Ken Rosenthal:
“Ricketts could be expected to receive between $100 million and $125 million in tax credits once federal and state officials determined that the renovation of Wrigley met national historical preservation standards.”November 23, 2020 at 12:40 pm #148038November 23, 2020 at 2:08 pm #148057
Stop me if you’ve heard this before… “Playoff-worthy”
Jed Hoyer makes it clear the Cubs intent to contend while restocking the farm system: "Given our resources and given our talent level, I think we should field a team that's playoff-worth every year. I think we can do that and have a team that's positioned long-term as well."
— Chris Emma (@CEmma670) November 23, 2020November 23, 2020 at 4:09 pm #148071November 28, 2020 at 5:57 pm #148390
Jed already has the lingo down pat, saying the Cubs will need to be “opportunistic” to retool and compete at the same time. Mo should have trademarked it! 😉November 29, 2020 at 11:59 am #148414
My guess is that Hoyer will be like Mo and Friedman in that he will go big when the opportunity is there but is also going to build from within. Epstein got into the Dombrowski rut of gutting the farm system for short term gain and it fizzled.
Fortunately for Hoyer and Mo they reside in the worst division in baseball so they can be prudent and opportunistic and still have a good chance to win the division.November 30, 2020 at 10:19 am #148486November 30, 2020 at 10:21 am #148487
Looks like everyone is a VP… Hard to tell which are replacements and which are new positions. But while Ricketts made a lot of cuts at lower levels, it sure looks like he has a lot of chiefs. And if others besides Theo left the organization, who and why? I am guessing beat writer stories are coming…
Other promotions: Chris Moore, VP of research and development; Matt Dorey, VP of Player development; Louie Eljaua, VP of international scouting; Alex Suarez, senior director of international player development and operations; Greg Davey, director of baseball ops; (more)
— Mark Gonzales (@MDGonzales) November 30, 2020
Jeremy Greenhouse, director, strategic modeling in baseball ops research and development group; Gian Guzman, director, Dominican Republic scouting ops/international crosschecker; Meghan Jones, assistant director, baseball operations and strategic initiatives; (more)
— Mark Gonzales (@MDGonzales) November 30, 2020
Garrett Chiado, senior player evaluation analyst; Nate Halm, pro personnel specialist; Adam Unes, coordinator, minor league operations; Alex Smith, coordinator, major league data and development, and Jackson New-Smith, assistant, baseball ops.
— Mark Gonzales (@MDGonzales) November 30, 2020November 30, 2020 at 2:11 pm #148498Euro DandyParticipantFree
New MLB title alert – Asst. GM/VP of Pitching!
Ha. Deputy Asst GM/VP of Relievers coming soon.November 30, 2020 at 6:23 pm #148509bccranParticipantPaid - Annual
Jed has respected for a number of years the way Cardinals do business as far as building from within and supplementing from the outside. Remaining a competitive, winning team every year that has a good chance of getting into the playoffs
and perhaps going deep.December 2, 2020 at 1:37 pm #148632
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) December 2, 2020
Between Robert Stock and Rowan Wick, the Cubs are really cornering the market on guys the #stlcards drafted as hitters and turned into pitchers. If they sign Sam Tuivailala this winter, something’s up.
— Jeff Jones (@jmjones) December 2, 2020December 2, 2020 at 1:38 pm #148633
Clubs starting to inform players. Per source: Cubs Jose Martinez has been non tendered. Came over from TB midseason but struggled. He's a FA.
— Jesse Rogers (@JesseRogersESPN) December 2, 2020December 2, 2020 at 3:46 pm #148648December 2, 2020 at 4:14 pm #148653RatsbuddyParticipantFree
Speaking of Almora……whats the latest on the young gal he hit with a foul ball down in Houston last year? The last I heard she was not doing very well.
r/Esteemed RatDecember 2, 2020 at 6:59 pm #148665December 3, 2020 at 6:31 am #148705stlcard25ParticipantPaid - Annual
The Cubs got their World Series out of that crew, so I’m sure they are not sad. No doubt that they are entering a rebuilding phase, which will have to start with building a farm that can supply their team with new talent, especially on the pitching side. I wish them all the worst of luck in that department.
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