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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    Dwight Evans, Steve Garvey, Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Marvin Miller, Thurman Munson, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Ted Simmons and Lou Whitaker are the candidates the Modern Baseball Era Committee will consider for Hall of Fame election for the Class of 2020.

    The candidates will be reviewed and voted upon Dec. 8 at the Baseball Winter Meetings.

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    Lots of good not great players on that list.

    Steve Garvey is in the Padres HOF. lol

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    No Les “Sugar” Cain? Teammate, “Sweet” Lou Whitaker, certainly makes a valid claim towards enshrinement. As does Simba, Garvey, Mattingly, Munson, Murphy…….heck, enshrine them all! Except MM…….and I’m not talking about KC’s new skipper.

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    If I had only two votes, they would go to Simmons and Marvin Miller.

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    Miller, Munson, and Simmons are the most deserving of the lot in my opinion. Hope at least two of those get in, with one of them named Teddy.

    The thing is though, Miller changed the game more than anyone could imagine, so he should be a slam dunk. Then you have two catchers with parallel careers. One played in New York and on a couple of World Series teams, the other played in the Midwest and was on a pennant winner somewhat late in his career.

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    I’d go with Simmons and Parker. They were both tough competitor. Both had stats that were deserving.

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    Most of the players on the list should be in the Hall.

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    Miller too.

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    I really think they all would probably deserve to be there. simmons to me is a definite and should have already been there. if I could only take 2, the other one right now probably would be parker but its close with munson. though mattinglys numbers were really great til he started having back problems so he should be considered cause otherwise I believe he would have earned it on merit by the normal route. puckett wasa voted in though he retired early due to eye issues. murphy is an interesting phenomena. he was so great for a short time but he just became not even good all of a sudden. not because of any known injury or cause. kind of like the reverse of those movies where someone would overnight go from average to extraordinary in some fashion.

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    I would vote for Ted Simmons and Dwight Evans. Simba’s numbers rank with all the great catchers in baseball and he played his career in a Pitcher’s ballpark. Dewey’s numbers mirror Jim Rice’s and you tack on the 8 Gold Gloves and he’s a slam dunk for me.

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    Dwight Evans was pretty dang good. I remember one year, and it seemed he had been fairly pedestrian before this, but before the season Tony Kubek said Evans would be the AL MVP that year. I thought “What, Evans has a great arm but is not that good other than that”. And he had a great year and it made me realize that Kubek really knows the game. He never seemed to get the fanfare of guys like Lynn, Rice and Yaz, but was a darn good player and probably is deserving.

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    How the world has changed. Curt Flood, Jr. is soliciting money for a PR campaign that will cost $10,000-$15,000 per month, totaling $100,000, to run until next December. The sole purpose is to influence the votes of the 16 members of the Golden Days Hall of Fame Committee (1950-69) through public opinion…

    Seems to me they would be better off lobbying the 16 actual voters, but what do I know?

    Here were the 16 voters last time (some could change): Hall of Fame members Jim Bunning, Rod Carew, Pat Gillick, Ferguson Jenkins, Al Kaline, Joe Morgan, Ozzie Smith and Don Sutton; major league executives Dave Dombrowski, Jim Frey, David Glass and Roland Hemond; and veteran media members Steve Hirdt, Dick Kaegel, Phil Pepe and Tracy Ringolsby.

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    Jeter is a lock. Rolen is back. Last chance for Larry Walker. One and done likely ahead for Rafael Furcal and Brad Penny, but maybe they will get a stray vote or two.

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    My list would be Rolen, Jeter, Walker, Schilling & Sheffield…maybe Wagner.

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    Kubek was an under rated broadcaster

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    My list is Jeter.

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    Definitely Schilling.

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    My none PED ballot would be: Rolen, Walker, Jeter, Abreu, Vizquel, Wagner, Jones and Kent.

    Abreu is highly underrated. Those of you who have posted need to go back and look at his numbers.

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    Schilling is more qualified than anyone on that list except for Jeter.

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    Curt Schilling, for example, has a career WAR of 79.5 compared to Abreu who has a 60.0.

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    My first nomination of worst HOF ballot goes to:

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    Brian WaltonBrian Walton
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    That is the second Jeter-only ballot I have seen. The other one I saw, the guy bragged about leaving off a half-dozen players he voted for last year. If they were Hall-worthy last year, they should be this year, too, especially with a less-crowded ballot this time.

    If the BBWAA had any guts, they would drop the voters who do not take the process seriously. It is embarrassing to the game and unfair to the other players on the ballot. But it is an old boys club so that isn’t going to happen. Makes me angry.

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    I agree…Curt Schilling should be a lock. I would add Walker and Rolen.
    Schilling-79.5 WAR
    Walker-72.7 WAR
    Rolen-70.2 WAR

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    Brian, is this the one you’re talking about?

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