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Helsley and Williams have rental value, where most recent (2024), is most relevent. Their current trade values are not as lopsided as their 2024 saves, 49 vs 14, but I expect a significant added increase in Helsleys value.
Bling you have blinders on to Durbins value to the Brewers. Durbin isn’t junk like you insinuate. He’s as good as any of our mil prospects except Westherholt.
The return for Helsley may not be what we want but I would still trade him now. Waiting until the deadline is too risky.
Also ask yourself this, do you think the Cardinals will sign Helsley to a long term extension? I don’t. Bloom doesn’t strike me as they type to lock up a big portion of payroll for five years on a closer who could go off the rails at anytime. So if the Cardinals aren’t going to sign him long term why keep him for 2025? Is winning 80 games instead of 75 that big of a deal?
You just don’t get the same value for a closer as you do a starting pitcher or an everyday player. Not trading Helsley for whatever his value is would be a mistake. His value is whatever the market bears. But what the Brewers got for Williams isn’t what the market will bear for Helsley. The Brewers are like the Patriots when Belichick was running the show. They drafted players that didnt have high rankings but fit their system. Wait until we play the Brewers and they run all over us. That’s their game and that’s Durbins game. He walks more than he strikes out.
Free-agent pitcher Jose Quintana and the Milwaukee Brewers are in agreement on a one-year contract, according to sources familiar with the deal.
— Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) March 3, 2025
About the Brewers but also about the labor situation.
Shaikin: Why the small-market Milwaukee Brewers might be America's team https://t.co/xYpAA4U35X
— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) July 19, 2025
How the good get better…
Forget the trade deadline, the Milwaukee Brewers already pulled off the two biggest coups:
Besides grabbing Andrew Vaughn in June, they stole Quinn Vaughn from the Boston Red Sox in April.
Since May 30, Vaughn is 9-0 with a 2.60 ERA in his last 11 starts, with Brewers going 11-0— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) July 30, 2025
The Brewers certainly do more with less.
Maybe instead of Bloom we should have tried to pick off some of their guys?
They seem to have no issues identifying and developing talent.
The Brewers newest GM, Matt Arnold, also has a Tampa background like Bloom. The Andrew Friedman tree is quite extensive.
The Brewers give up 3B Caleb Durbin but get a starter in Kyle Harrison.
Trade news: The Boston Red Sox are acquiring third baseman Caleb Durbin in a trade with the Milwaukee Brewers, sources tell ESPN. Left-hander Kyle Harrison is headlining the three-player package headed back to Milwaukee.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 9, 2026
I found this to be interesting. The Brewers are giving $50M to a player who has played three games at AAA and zero games at the MLB level.
#Brewers are finalizing a surprise extension with one of their minor league infieldershttps://t.co/VteKTsee8L pic.twitter.com/fpCFXn2flt
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) March 31, 2026
Shortstop Cooper Pratt, who signed an 8-year, $50.75 million contract in April with the Brewers, is now being called up to the big leagues. He's expected to be in the Brewers' starting lineup Tuesday against the Cleveland Guardians.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) June 14, 2026
The Brewers sure have a lot of confidence in their talent evaluators. I look at the Dodgers and some of their prodigious glutes and legs and even their upper bodies, and the way they lean forward on their toes in the batters box. Then I wonder…I just wonder. And there are players like Mookie Betts or AAron Judge who sign mega contracts and who play like super stars for a few years, and then become average or less. It’s almost always blamed on injuries, even though these players rarely return to previous form. And then there’s Paul Goldschmidt posting a line of 600/600/600/1200 for the Yankees ins 2026 at nearly 40 years old. Makes you wonder. At least with the Brewers they,re only risking about $6M/year to find out if he’s as good as they think he is. Our own Jordan Walker should squeeze as many millions as he can out of the Cardinals and their fan base until he hits free agency and is ready to claim that 40M$+/yr.
We will see what they get for their money. Pratt’s hitting .244 in AAA. 6 homers. I assume he’s good with the glove.
6M$?/yr by today’s standards is still cheap. Millions of dollars to any baseball player is excessive. I’ve been saying that for years. The Cardinals’ team is playing for fun and for each other. That’s the way the games should all be played. The White Sox seem to be doing that, too, now. Let the young guys become rich, but it doesn’t have to be absurdly rich. If the new CBT by the owners can be implemented, that could possibly happen The details would still have to be worked out. But with the combination of all team player salaries divvied up and distributed evenly, then every MLB player gets treated evenly, then Boras and no team gets to pirate a player away from another organization at will. Of course, there are details that would have to be worked out. But this would really, really change the game if I’m understanding it correctly. If would bring more even competition and a more exciting game.
I’ll try to figure how the numbers could work in terms of dollars per team and per player. But I would welcome come other opinions other than ‘its impossible’.
One thing for sure is the pie is not going to shrink, so its an argument about who gets how much. Whatever the players don’t get is added to what the owners get.
You actually have 3 parties in play here but one never gets much consideration. You could lower what the players get AND lower what the owners get and then charge the fans less for tickets, streaming services, concessions, and team merchandise.
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