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December 31, 2020 at 7:06 pm #150950
This has noting to do with MLB – at this time. But it is still worth watching, even though it is MLS only.
MLS plans to invoke a force majeure clause spurred by the pandemic, putting the collective bargaining agreement between the league and its player's association in jeopardy. https://t.co/xLVJVaWPHf pic.twitter.com/Zc7GYkVYr0
— Sportico (@Sportico) January 1, 2021
December 31, 2020 at 7:56 pm #150952
jj-cf-stlParticipantIt’s 62mil on Darvish, not 52mil, and then minus the 3mil from the CHC is 3/59mil (19.7 AAV)
January 1, 2021 at 1:01 pm #151002That MLS article is very interesting and quite alarming. I was just contemplating last night why MLB struggles more with owner/player relations than the other sports leagues. It looks like MLS is going to give MLB a run for its money, although according to the article, some consider MLS a single entity instead of 30 separate entities which could give the league more authority to impose its will. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.
January 3, 2021 at 5:21 pm #151095This is promising news.
No Delays Expected For Start Of Spring Training, 2021 Season https://t.co/0exxyMnHVX pic.twitter.com/NslDJMplWz
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) January 3, 2021
January 3, 2021 at 6:39 pm #151098So in summary, the owners don’t want to start on time, but don’t have a way to wiggle off the hook yet.
January 3, 2021 at 9:35 pm #151099Brian:
Why don’t the owners want to stat on time?
January 3, 2021 at 10:23 pm #151100Did you read the article? Unlikely that all stadiums can be occupied on April 1. Without fans, owners say they lose money by playing.
January 5, 2021 at 12:51 am #151131Brian:
Sometimes my browser blocks the articles or places an ad over them. This one was readable after you suggested I read it. Thank you for the explanation. I’ll try not to bother you as much in the future.
January 5, 2021 at 7:09 am #151132It wasn’t a bother. The answer just seemed clear in reading the article. If you’d said you couldn’t view it, I would have just answered the question. It must be very frustrating not to be able to view websites. A popup blocker or computer upgrade might be worth exploring, but no problem here…
To the point of the article, some things have changed from last year and some have not. What hasn’t changed is that owners feel they will lose money without fans and want to try to avoid that. What has changed is that other leagues have been able to play, which puts MLB in a bad position to try to claim they cannot. More projected losses lead to more belt-tightening. Players resist and more labor strife ensues. 2020 redux.
January 5, 2021 at 8:36 pm #151171Brian:
Thanks for the further explanation. I hope they can play a full season on time…maybe have fans by August?
January 11, 2021 at 7:57 pm #151556
stlcard25ParticipantNot MLB, but an interesting article about the NHL season and the decision about playing or not:
January 12, 2021 at 8:44 am #151583Rob Manfred: MLB teams should plan for spring training to start on time, full 162-game season to be played https://t.co/MCH7NB88CT via @USATODAY
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) January 12, 2021
January 12, 2021 at 8:57 am #151586Key details of MLB’s proposed plans are to allow pods of fans six feet apart in both spring training and the regular season, but of course local regulations take precedence.
New #MLB guidelines leave room for fans to attend spring training and regular season games in limited basis. https://t.co/RRZPld1M1w
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) January 12, 2021
January 12, 2021 at 2:31 pm #151602How do ticket pods work when scalpers get involved? They buy blocks of tix and then sell them in smaller units, putting strangers next to each other. MLB needs to clamp down.
January 12, 2021 at 3:08 pm #151603Very interesting problem since MLB teams themselves are a major part of the secondary market for tickets. You are right – it could get messy quickly.
January 13, 2021 at 12:52 am #151611Would this limited attendance mean the tickets would be 300 dollars?
January 13, 2021 at 7:45 am #151612On the secondary market, the prices will be whatever people are willing to pay for them.
January 13, 2021 at 12:29 pm #151670Is there no decision yet on whether the DH will be in the NL in 2021? And what about the runner starting at 2ndbase in extra innings?
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January 13, 2021 at 1:26 pm #151678No decisions yet Rat.
January 15, 2021 at 9:24 am #151798At least the two sides are talking, but man, the article reads like someone from MLB HQ wrote it for Nightengale, as the theme is to pressure the union. Guess that is how you get “scoops”…
If past behavior is any measure, Tony Clark will tell his side to another writer later today. This is going to be the serve and volley game we will be seeing all year long.
Important to remember than any ground given up now will be far more difficult to regain in the upcoming CBA negotiations – and those stakes covering five years are much higher than 2021 as a single year of reduced revenues. Maybe too deep of implications for Nightengale.
MLB, fearing the pandemic could create havoc with scheduling, is planning to bring back 7-inning doubleheaders and runner on 2nd base in extra innings in talks with the union. The universal DH and expanded playoffs still being negotiated. https://t.co/mi1KGCOvQl
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) January 15, 2021
January 23, 2021 at 2:48 pm #152377Spring Training is only about three weeks away from starting. Do we know anything yet?
Is spring training going to start on time?
Will the season start on time?
Are we playing 162 games?
If none of the above happens then what?
DH?
Runner at 2nd in extra innings?
Shouldnt these things be getting decided, like, IMMEDIATELY?
r/Esteemed Rat
January 23, 2021 at 4:11 pm #152380You forgot, “What numbers should I bet on in Powerball?” 😉
Pitchers and catchers report in 25 days. As Tom Petty wrote, “The waiting is the hardest part.”
January 25, 2021 at 3:05 pm #152434
stlcard25ParticipantJanuary 25, 2021 at 3:34 pm #152438MLB and the MLBPA couldn’t agree on a one topping pizza.
January 25, 2021 at 3:46 pm #152439
stlcard25ParticipantThe owners would probably insist on the topping being pineapple, anyway. 😄
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