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December 6, 2025 at 9:19 am #297050
A lot of ‘if’s’ with Elissalt, but a lot of promise, too. It will be interesting to follow his progress.
Thanks.
December 6, 2025 at 3:48 pm #297057Elissalt, seems typical of many other lightly built young pitchers with a hot arm thats all over the place. He gets low level hitters out by throwing it past them, relying on their lack of discipline. Then, more advanced hitters just wait him out. He comes over the plate more and gets hit, so he tries to counter that by ‘adding a couple ticks’, then blows out his arm. I wish they would have Elissalt dial the FB back a couple MPH and work on control. Placement within the zone. Working in, out, up, down. Work in secondaries, change speed. Find a way to get batters out besides trying to throw it past them. If it doesn’t work, fine, add a few ticks and go until the arm blows. But at least try something that hasn’t already not worked countless times.
December 6, 2025 at 4:48 pm #297062“I wish they would have Elissalt dial the FB back a couple MPH and work on control. Placement within the zone. Working in, out, up, down. Work in secondaries, change speed. Find a way to get batters out besides trying to throw it past them.”
Amen. But unfortunately the new super-modern Cards seem to be obsessed with velocity & movement. Not preoccupied with it, obsessed with it. To the detriment of pitcher development.
December 6, 2025 at 7:18 pm #297063Add bb’s thoughtful and enlightening comment to what Kyle and BW said makes following Elissalt all the more interesting.
December 7, 2025 at 7:30 am #297069In a FREE article, The Cardinal Nation’s Top 50 #stlcards prospect countdown for 2026 reaches no. 30 with a first baseman acquired from the Red Sox at the trade deadline but left exposed to the Rule 5 draft. Where will Blaze Jordan fit? https://t.co/6AFt0Qxb5s pic.twitter.com/SCOcxuNufe
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 7, 2025
December 7, 2025 at 8:40 am #297071I see Blaze Jordan as an “add on” to push a trade over the finish line(assuming he’s not taken this week), especially if they look at his Boston org #’s vs Memphis. Love the power potential, but they already have Gorman and Walker to hopefully figure out….
December 7, 2025 at 10:23 am #297075
unfortunately the new super-modern Cards seem to be obsessed with velocity & movement
I have often put forward the idea that the Cards org, and not only them, obsess on what the tech can measure. Simulations, algos, predictive models, all require input in the form of numbers, so what can be objectively and accurately quantified makes great input. Anything that has to be measured and quantified with a subjective element makes bad input causing erratic and subjective results. So those hard to quantify things get minimized or ignored or rationalized away. And I think it starts early. Hitting the numbers to be taken seriously and get into the best programs. 90 on the black, go bag groceries kid. 96, go find that ball and come back here so we can sign you up.
December 7, 2025 at 1:23 pm #297089I’ll be a contrarian and state I love the new direction of the new Cards FO in regards to the pitching changes. What the prior FO did is target pitchability guys who were much more command over stuff like McGreevy, Rajcic, Hansen, Robberse, Rincon, and on and on. There were some upside arms sprinkled in like Hence, but the majority of player acquisitions would fall much more on the pitchability side of the spectrum over stuff. Even Mathews was more pitchability over stuff when he joined the org but his velo gain moved him around the spectrum.
The focus on pitchability clearly has not worked given the dearth of young, controllable MLB starters or even SP depth. While McGreevy I have more faith in, the rest I really don’t see with much of a big league future. I for one very much welcome the Elisalts of the org who there is obviously risk, but there is upside they are a mid rotation SP. Many of those other guys even if they are successful, it is just a a SP5 and not a true impact to the orgs future.
December 7, 2025 at 1:26 pm #297090Jordan has no future has 3B. Taking one quick look at him you can see he isn’t going to be athletic enough to handle the hot corner. It probably would be best for his bat development to just let him focus on 1B rather than swapping back and forth between 3B/1B. I doubt Jordan gets taken in the R5 for the same reasons BW stated. Jordan really has to click on each part of his game and he could be a big leaguer, but there are a lot of ifs for a guy in AAA. I actually have him high risk despite the proximity to the majors.
December 7, 2025 at 4:17 pm #297100I agree, he would be a high risk to become an MLB starter. My medium risk was for him to be a AAAA, up and down player.
December 7, 2025 at 8:29 pm #297109Trying to break in as a 1B is nearly impossible. There is always a proven MLB bat already on the roster who needs a less demanding defensive position. The guy needs to just hit up a storm in AAA and hit the ground running if he gets a shot in MLB.
December 8, 2025 at 7:48 am #297118At no. 29 on The Cardinal Nation’s 2026 #STLCards Top 50 prospect countdown is a switch-hitting shortstop who has garnered a high level of national attention despite still being in rookie ball. Will Yairo Padilla develop enough power to become a multi-tool major league starter?…
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 8, 2025
December 9, 2025 at 6:55 am #297166The Cardinal Nation’s 2026 #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown reaches no. 28 with the org’s oft-injured second pick in the 2023 draft. After a healthier, but still uneven 2025, can outfielder Travis Honeyman move ahead more rapidly while developing the power he currently lacks?… pic.twitter.com/KQbzDSQUL9
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 9, 2025
December 9, 2025 at 8:02 am #297169I like Padilla at that spot, much more accurate than some of the top 10’s he’s been on nationally. I’m all about “potential to be a star” and “having the raw” talent, etc. You need real results and besides the SB and decent OBP nothing stands out. If at 19, in 2026 at PB, he can put up double digit HRs I will rank him much higher next offseason.
As of now, Dos Santos is higher for me because of better results/numbers in their age 17 seasons in the DSL. Over 1.000 OPS at any level is huge regardless of “potential”.
December 9, 2025 at 9:47 am #297176I understand where you are coming from, but how much weight to place on DSL results is always tricky. Padilla has proven himself both in the DSL and FCL. We should see how Dos Santos handles the transition in 2026.
December 9, 2025 at 10:05 am #297178I only have numbers to go off of obviously, didn’t make it to any DSL games! Hah
As 17 year olds in the DSL: (PA’s are close)
Padilla – .796 OPS, 10 XBH
Miguel Hernandez – .853 OPS, 11 XBH
Dos Santos – 1.022 OPS, 21 XBHI don’t have a clue on the fielding aspect and don’t think that’s even relevant yet, the Cards need bats and based on the numbers we have to compare equally at 17 y/o, Dos Santos has produced much better.
That’s what I’m basing my thoughts on at that level and age.
December 9, 2025 at 12:15 pm #297188Who can forget Malcom Nunez’ 1.272 OPS in the DSL at the age of 17? They skipped him over the FCL and that probably didn’t help him out.
December 10, 2025 at 6:37 am #297224At no. 27 on The Cardinal Nation’s 2026 #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown is a right-hander taken in the fifth round in 2025. Ethan Young was a long reliever in college but has the offerings to start. https://t.co/QeXFUNoN1B pic.twitter.com/M63npJPD0z
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 10, 2025
December 11, 2025 at 7:20 am #297312At no. 26 on The Cardinal Nation’s 2026 #STLCards Top 50 prospect countdown is a former first rounder who leveled off at Double-A in 2025. How much longer will it take for OF Chase Davis to tap into his potential power? https://t.co/t3NoxwY8HF pic.twitter.com/GMUjBPuK6S
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 11, 2025
December 11, 2025 at 8:03 am #297314
stlcard25ParticipantWho can forget Malcom Nunez’ 1.272 OPS in the DSL at the age of 17? They skipped him over the FCL and that probably didn’t help him out.
I remember him getting votes for the #1 prospect in our site rankings that year too. Oof. I figured he would always hit at least decently well, but didn’t think he would contribute much defensively. It’s a little surprising that he’s never made an appearance in the majors, but he can’t seem to get over the AAA hump. Still, that trade grades as a slight win for the Pirates even though Quintana was good down the stretch in St Louis. Oviedo has turned out to be as good or better than most of the guys the Cards kept.
December 12, 2025 at 6:17 am #297367In a FREE article, at no. 25 in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown for 2026 is an outfielder who may have started to put it together in the second half of 2025. Will Zach Levenson break out in a likely return to Double-A? https://t.co/Lr2hFPxBE3 pic.twitter.com/hNNgDwt5W8
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 12, 2025
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December 12, 2025 at 12:49 pm #297388Maybe the new PD regime looked at Levenson for half a season and then rolled out a fix as evidenced by the new approach described in the article. After a few weeks to settle in to it,results improved.
December 13, 2025 at 7:38 am #297412At no. 24 on The Cardinal Nation’s 2026 #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown is a right-hander who came from the Mets in the Ryan Helsley trade. Nate Dohm needs more development time and greater durability but has the ingredients for success. https://t.co/fi67D97CAf pic.twitter.com/jkoAtuN3Pz
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 13, 2025
December 13, 2025 at 9:16 am #297414Nathaniel Steven “Astro” Dohm. I had Nate way down at #44 in my first rough draft in early September. He obviously needed to ascend some. He got knocked around a bit in his short stint in Peoria. Let’s hope maybe we see a Dohm sighting in Springfield late next season and not in Palm Beach.
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