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July 5, 2023 at 7:16 pm #226759
Just tuned in, a lot offense early, huh? Or a lot of bad pitching?
Liberatore gave up four runs and recorded one out.
Hudson walked in a run with 3 straight walks.
July 5, 2023 at 7:20 pm #226760That’s been Hudson’s problem – he has good stuff but command does him in. If he could learn to be more consistent in the strike zone he could be pretty good. That good sinker would serve him well, but he does not throw enough strikes.
July 5, 2023 at 7:24 pm #226761Man, Carlson has K’d twice on pitches nowhere near the zone. He’s a guy you would really like to see mature and get to where his production is what you thought it could be coming through the organization.
July 5, 2023 at 7:26 pm #226762Our old buddy Johnny Jay coaching at first.
July 5, 2023 at 7:30 pm #226763This is Carlson’s 4th year in the bigs. It seems like the best we could hope for is league average, with some usefulness vs LHP. I think the Cards have seen enough to be honest.
July 5, 2023 at 7:32 pm #226764If we don’t win this one, we could very well be staring at a four game sweep with Perez going tomorrow.
July 5, 2023 at 7:33 pm #226765This is the pitcher we got for Arozarena? Geez Louise!
The thing about that trade is it seemingly had such a wide spread of opinions. Some thought it was awful the Cards hadn’t already given Arozarena a legitimate shot to prove himself and even worse that Mo made the trade before giving him that chance. Others thought Mo landed a fierce hook upside the Rays’ jaw by getting such a high draft choice starting pitcher prospect. For a good while, both sides were still entrenched, hearing some say, just wait — it’ll even up when Liberatore emerges. Not sure that’s still being said much.
In hindsight the big clues were Mo making a trade involving a young pitching prospect and Neander was on the other end.
July 5, 2023 at 7:33 pm #226766Hudson walked in a run with 3 straight walks.
Thanks for the update. Man, glad I missed that. Hudson still being Hudson.
July 5, 2023 at 7:39 pm #226767Nooty had a legitimate complaint there.
Easy to see why we are so bad. Lousy pitching, and our number three hitter has a .752 OPS. .752 is not horrible, but not at three. Your number three guy should be around .900 if you are any good.
July 5, 2023 at 7:43 pm #226768Noot could pull off hitting third for a while when he’s hot, but he hasn’t been hot. He’s mostly been cold, so it doesn’t make any sense. Not that we should expect it to, I guess.
July 5, 2023 at 7:43 pm #226769Matz not happy – we are burning through pitchers.
July 5, 2023 at 7:44 pm #226770Not a good sign when you see Matz with his cap cocked back after a play.
July 5, 2023 at 7:46 pm #226771Burning through ’em is right, Mike. Better hope Burly is available tonight.
July 5, 2023 at 7:48 pm #226772Indeed, and that Flaherty can go 7 or more tomorrow.
Skip is using a lot of hurlers as well.
July 5, 2023 at 7:49 pm #226773Hey bling, does OliMo’s computer have the flexibility to pencil hot Noot into the lineup vs cold Noot? You gotta select the right one from the drop down menu.
July 5, 2023 at 7:51 pm #226774
jj-cf-stlParticipant1 fer 2 (double) with two walks
tough crowdThe out? Ump stole that one
July 5, 2023 at 7:51 pm #226775Nado doing his part. Any pitching at all tonight and this one would be looking good.
July 5, 2023 at 7:52 pm #226776
jj-cf-stlParticipantContreras showing up
July 5, 2023 at 7:55 pm #226778Tough to change a guy with so much talent, but I would like to see Walker close up his stance some.
July 5, 2023 at 7:56 pm #226779
jj-cf-stlParticipantOr close it more as he strides
July 5, 2023 at 7:56 pm #226780Euro, I think it would if they were running the current rev, but nobody has updated it since 2011.
July 5, 2023 at 7:59 pm #226781Yes on Walker – close up a little and direct the energy to the bat. Seems like the way he swings, he pulls off the ball a little and loses some power. Not too mention the outside pitch will be tough to handle.
July 5, 2023 at 8:02 pm #226783Memories – in a game I got called out on strikes one time as a teenager, I did exactly the same thing Segura did. I drew a line in the dirt where the pitch was, but the ump did not kick me out. I think he knew he blew the call.
July 5, 2023 at 8:02 pm #226784Being a rookie I guess, Walker was way too polite to the ump when he questioned the called strike that was about a half foot low. But then we just got one back on Segura’s ridiculous ꓘ. I like what Segura did much better. These umps are terrible so often.
July 5, 2023 at 8:04 pm #226785Yeah, Walker has had that issue reaching the outside corner since he first came up. He has gotten better at laying off them, and a lot of them miss the corner. He needs to learn he doesn’t always have to swing even if it is coming in on the black. Wait for something better.
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