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May 28, 2023 at 3:18 pm #222513
Ramirez is coming up, their best hitter.
May 28, 2023 at 3:19 pm #222514Helsley is Jekyll and Hyde, as he comes back to get the 2nd out after 2 walks, but then gives up a game losing double.
Walks kill.
May 28, 2023 at 3:19 pm #222515F’n BB’s…
May 28, 2023 at 3:19 pm #222516Good golly. They walk it off. Unbelievable.
May 28, 2023 at 3:19 pm #222517Ouch…..
May 28, 2023 at 3:21 pm #222518Score all 3 runs on solo HR’s and then get beat by 2 BB’s and a double.
May 28, 2023 at 3:21 pm #222519Ugh . . .
May 28, 2023 at 3:21 pm #222520Helsley’s last pitch couldn’t have been any more center-center. He had no idea where his pitches were landing today.
May 28, 2023 at 3:22 pm #222522Cards can’t hit and they can’t pitch. Walks. They just kill you.
Oh well, they will still only be five games out.
And the guy passed the leader on the last lap of the Indianapolis 500 and won. Josef Newgarden was his name, or something like that. Imagine how that guy feels that got passed on the last lap. He feels about like Helsley feels about now.
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May 28, 2023 at 3:24 pm #222523Somehow I think I’ve seen that somewhere before? Our last wild card game last season. Close game though and fun to watch. Maybe win tomorrow!
May 28, 2023 at 3:24 pm #222524ED that last sentence is like a center-center comment. I could take that thing yard. These guys are what they are, and that’s not very good.
May 28, 2023 at 3:26 pm #222525Euro are you infering Helsleys throwing meatballs when he does hit the strike zone?
May 28, 2023 at 3:32 pm #222526Yep TexasCard and Wooster, walks will bleed you to death, but wild in the zone can lead to a nuclear blast. Cards are feeling the fallout now.
May 28, 2023 at 3:36 pm #222527Wonder how the furniture is faring in the 1td household?
May 28, 2023 at 3:50 pm #222528Yep, Indy 500 was much more exciting. Red flag until last two laps. Need to regroup for KC and take 2 of 2 starting tomorrow.
May 28, 2023 at 4:19 pm #222529First the facts, then the analysis.
Facts: It is known that when Helsley pitches more than an inning, or when he pitches on consecutive days, the result is poorer than when those factors are not it play.
Fact: Boy genius (not to be confused with the alternative rock band) put into to play both facts on consecutive days.Analysis: Boy genius is trying to get into a mental hospital, but they ruled him sane. To prove them wrong, he is going to any lengths to show the world he is nuttier than a fruit cake.
May 28, 2023 at 4:50 pm #222530On other hand, maybe I’m over analyzing Helsley, and he just an average relief pitcher, and his average 3.52 ERA is indicative of his abilities and not to be blamed on Boy genius.
But if that is the case, why is he our closer?May 28, 2023 at 4:54 pm #222531In 55 games played the Cardinals have 12 quality starts, which is 22% of the time. Not good. That leads to a worn out bullpen, which hinders the options for Boy Genius. The Head Genius upstairs has given Boy Genius a crap sandwich of a starting rotation.
May 28, 2023 at 5:21 pm #222532It seems Hicks and Helsley are trending in opposite directions. Hicks could very well be the closer by the end of June, or possibly Gallegos will ascend to primary 9th inning guy.
I still think the Cardinals screwed up with Hicks. Had they kept him in the minors as a starter and groomed him correctly, there is a good chance he would be a top tier starter right now. Just what they need. But management rarely thinks too far ahead and they had him throw his arm out. He is healthy again and been a 1-2 inning pitcher for awhile that he seems to finally be growing into the role.
Won’t be surprised to see him close before long, and I won’t be surprised if he excels in the role this time.
May 28, 2023 at 5:23 pm #222533PS – My television, and pocket book are glad I was riding the bike during that ninth inning melt down. 🤬
May 28, 2023 at 5:52 pm #222534Another ball-busting loss.
Is that now 4 losses when leading going into the 9th inning?
May 28, 2023 at 6:04 pm #222535If it were warranted I’d certainly offer it up, but I can’t and won’t offer up a crumb of criticism of the Redbird field manager in today’s lousy loss. He not only made all the right decisions at precisely the right time, but also displayed an incredible ability to avoid a panic move. The simple fact is that his closer took to the mound in the 9th and offered up 8 consecutive pitches that were nowhere near the strike zone before he got beat with a terrible pitch with the tying and winning runs aboard as a result of the 2 BB’s. Helsley alone blew the game to smithereens.
May 28, 2023 at 6:10 pm #222536Cardinals are now 5-11 in 1 run games. At one point they were 1-7 and I strongly suspected where the origin of the problem came from, but now it’s difficult to pin it down.
May 28, 2023 at 6:28 pm #222537Outscoring the the opponents but having a sub-.500 record generally means you are losing a lot of close ones. In turn that suggests you are not getting timely hitting, your late inning pitching is weak, and your management team is miscalculating. Some combo those.
Sometimes it happens. I expect we will progress more towards our pythag percentage, but there are examples of teams that missed the mark by quite a lot. An over-performer are the 1984 Mets, and an under-performer are the 1966 Yankees. Look ‘em up – kind of mind boggling.
May 28, 2023 at 7:27 pm #222538Hanging this blown save on O. Mormol. Hensley not 1+ innings saturday, then closing om sunday guy.
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