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May 8, 2023 at 4:51 pm #219694
jj-cf-stlParticipantYou have no clue what his batting order numbers are, do ya. He’s a 101 ops+ batting 3rd and a 214 batting second. There is just 11 PA’s difference on the season between batting order positions.
Because the lineup spot for him doesn’t fit in your little traditionalist box, you want him as an average hitter instead of a great hitter.
Careful what you wish for. He has 6 HR batting second on less PA’s, than his 1 HR batting 3rd.
May 8, 2023 at 5:02 pm #219696#STLCards catcher Willson Contreras said RHPs Adam Wainwright and Jack Flaherty were a part of the recent discussions regarding his position shift. He didn’t elaborate about what was said during that summit with the front office, coaches, pitchers and himself.
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) May 8, 2023
May 8, 2023 at 5:03 pm #219697More Adam Wainwright on his message to Willson Contreras: “But he's appreciated. We love him and we're glad he's here. We're glad he's part of our team and I think he's gonna be a huge force for us going forward.”
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) May 8, 2023
May 8, 2023 at 5:06 pm #219698Of course, the idea is the 3rd slot will have more runners aboard to be potentially driven in. But that depends upon a number of factors. Do you have a high OBP hitter who does well up in the order to put 2nd? Do you have a threat to bat behind in 4th? That sort of thing. Right now, Donovan is not a high OBP hitter, and others have done real well up in the order. Arenado is in the midst of a career slump. Putting Goldy 2nd and Gorman 3rd for now is not indefensible at all.
May 8, 2023 at 5:09 pm #219699So, if I’m clear about what you’re driving at, jj, you’re basing the type of hitter Paul Goldschmidt is on 35 games? If that’s indeed the case, I’d like to mention that he’s played in over 1600 of them in his 13 year career…I’d also like to once again mention that he was awarded a NL MVP last season. A season in which he played in over 150 games. You and I both know that he was slotted at 3 for over 95% of those 150 games last season. Moreover, he’s been slotted at 3 for the majority of his career. He’s never been an average hitter and has always been a great hitter. That’s my clue and that’s my case…
May 8, 2023 at 5:14 pm #219700As to the tweets, jeesh, a love in, just what we need.
May 8, 2023 at 5:16 pm #219701I advocated moving Gorman up in the order weeks ago. But absolutely not into the 3 slot. That’s silly. The young guy’s still trying to make his bones. Now you want him to be Albert, Goldy, Simmons or Hernandez? Put him at 5 and call it good for a couple of weeks.
May 8, 2023 at 5:22 pm #219703Haha! Yeah, nothing helps more than a warm hug and a snuggle when you’re 11-24 and the list is so far to one side as to threaten a capsize…How about a little ballast instead?
May 8, 2023 at 5:45 pm #219706
jj-cf-stlParticipantIf you didn’t get it the first time, try reading again.
Even Oli got this right. Of course you have to burn it down. The last thing this club needs NOW, is more idiotic tinkering. If it ain’t broken…..
May 8, 2023 at 5:52 pm #219708I don’t think he got it right, jj. I also don’t think you got it right either, jj. But if you think he got it right, that’s okay by me. And if you don’t think I got it right, I hope that’s okay by you…
May 8, 2023 at 6:26 pm #219709Arenado scratched. Didn’t say why.
Noot RF
Goldschmidt 1B
Gorman 3B
Contreras DH
Donovan LF
DeJong SS
Carlson CF
Edman 2B
Knizner CMay 8, 2023 at 6:26 pm #219710#STLCards star third baseman Nolan Arenado has been scratched from tonight's lineup.
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) May 8, 2023
#STLCards are moving Nolan Gorman to third base to replace star Nolan Arenado, who was scratched for an undiagnosed reason. Paul DeJong goes in at shortstop and Tommy Edman slides over to second base.
Willson Contreras moves up to the cleanup spot in the batting order.
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) May 8, 2023
May 8, 2023 at 6:29 pm #219711I don’t hate Goldschmidt 2, but don’t love it. To me I like Edman, Nootbaar, Goldschmidt, Arenado, Gorman, Contreras, Donovan, Carlson, Knizner… right now, if that’s the 9 were using.
May 8, 2023 at 6:30 pm #219712I know why. They’ve decided to move Arenado to catcher so he needs a day to adjust.
May 8, 2023 at 6:39 pm #219713I wonder what happened to Nado? He’s scuffling, so maybe just a night off. Maybe we’ll see him on the dugout steps with his manager while he explains to the 3B’man some of the more complex intricacies of the game. A fun and informative learning experience…
May 8, 2023 at 6:40 pm #219714Arenado has been hitting poorly. Maybe we will see him on the step between Oli and Turner Ward, receiving instruction.
edit. We think alike 1TD
May 8, 2023 at 6:41 pm #219715Neck stiffness.
May 8, 2023 at 6:47 pm #219716He’ll have to pay close attention to those two. “Watch real close how DeJong approaches this AB with the runner aboard at 2B”…
May 8, 2023 at 6:53 pm #219718I wonder how long Barnhart will kick around the HP area dirt when Contreras walks over to step in? He should get a decent show of appreciation from the Wrigley crowd.
May 8, 2023 at 6:56 pm #219720Lucky it’s not 3-0 after than 0-1 pitch.
May 8, 2023 at 6:57 pm #21972129 pitches through one. Mikolas will be lucky to go four innings tonight.
May 8, 2023 at 7:04 pm #219722Carlson drives in Willson for the 1st run with a single from the left side of the plate.
May 8, 2023 at 7:07 pm #219723Skinny legs has looked much better recently. He was really “feeling” for the ball early and being super handsy with his swing. He’s been much not fluid with more aggressive swings and letting his hands do the work in the swing, not be all the swing.
May 8, 2023 at 7:08 pm #219724Down goes Bucknor…almost. Took a jarring foul in the chin/face. Then rings up Knizner on one off the plate.
Wonder if he and Oli shook hands today.
May 8, 2023 at 7:10 pm #219725Zone got about 3 inches wider after taking the blow
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