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April 8, 2023 at 5:34 pm #215952
7:40 p.m.
RHP Miles Mikolas (0-1, 9.64) vs. LHP Kyle Freeland (2-0, 0.00)
BSM // KMOX
(and Bally Sports South/Southwest Extra)April 10, 2023 at 8:46 am #2161319.64 ERA lol
April 11, 2023 at 7:22 am #2162289.64 ERA lol
He’s just filling in as the ace, what do you expect. We score 10 we’ve got this. Gitrdone.
April 11, 2023 at 1:27 pm #216252Freeland has been very good early and looks like the pitcher of 2018 or ’19 – whatever season that was when the Rox got the wild card and Freeland held the Cubs at bay until the Rockies finally won in extras.
But there is a potential good omen for this one. I won’t be there. We are meeting up with my wife’s brother and sister-in-law for the Avalanche-Oilers hockey tilt this evening.
With me back in the lineup Wednesday afternoon, I would put the odd this way on these next two.
Win tonight, lose tomorrow: 60%
Lose tonight, lose tomorrow: 30%
Win tonight, win tomorrow: 10%April 11, 2023 at 3:29 pm #2162561. Brendan Donovan (L) LF
2. Tommy Edman (S) SS
3. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
4. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B
5. Willson Contreras (R) C
6. Tyler O’Neill (R) CF
7. Jordan Walker (R) RF
8. Juan Yepez (R) DH
9. Taylor Motter (R) 2BBecause we don’t have enough outfielders?
April 11, 2023 at 3:34 pm #216257That lineup blows. He should be fired just for just coming up with it let alone submitting it.
April 11, 2023 at 3:48 pm #216259It looks like they are basically choosing Motter over Carlson. Ouch.
April 11, 2023 at 3:58 pm #216260Ouch, yeah. Carlson last year vs LHP .305. Motter MLB career vs LHP .203.
April 11, 2023 at 4:15 pm #216261No line-up is ever immune from criticism and I can always offer up some inane suggestions, but if the Cardinalds ever win a game or two, I think I’d leave it alone until it failed to spin over and fire, so to speak. Anyone recall what the order looked like for the 2 W’s vs. TOR?
April 11, 2023 at 4:20 pm #216262Found another way to weaken two defensive positions, enabling them to get an inferior bat in the lineup. I guess the downside is Motter won’t be available to pinch hit for Donovan. Oli’s follies for sure.
April 11, 2023 at 4:28 pm #216263
Motter won’t be available to pinch hit for Donovan.
Burly is available to pinch hit for Donovan. Remember, it doesn’t have to make sense.
April 11, 2023 at 5:01 pm #216265I think most any lineup will get a “W” tonight. Even with a healthy Freeland going. The key is Bicycle Mike will be nowhere to be found.
Not sure of the exact number, but my lifetime Cardinal winning percentage in Rockies-Cardinals live is probably around .400
April 11, 2023 at 5:12 pm #216266“Ouch, yeah. Carlson last year vs LHP .305. Motter MLB career vs LHP .203.”
Crazy, ain’t it? I guess Carlson is this year’s whipping boy for Marmol. Inexcusable, really, to keep playing bad outfielders in LF — especially in Colorado where outfield defense is more important than any other park, and especially in order to shoehorn an old career mediocrity like Motter into the starting lineup over a young, still-developing player like Dylan Carlson. This is a mad scientist masquerading as an MLB manager, a man with no long-term plan for his team.
It’s just one game, yes, but it’s symptomatic of a much larger problem. Not unlike the very public berating of Tyler O’Neill. Real managers don’t do these things. Period.
April 11, 2023 at 5:17 pm #216267Well, Mikolos could snap out of it and have a good game. But we also need to bear in mind that he last had a winning record 5 years ago in 2018. That was the season he turned 30.
April 11, 2023 at 5:35 pm #216268Is win-loss record really a good way to evaluate a pitcher in 2023?
April 11, 2023 at 5:59 pm #216270Is win-loss record really a good way to evaluate a pitcher in 2023?
If not its great news because its way easier to acquire pitchers with losing records.
April 11, 2023 at 6:29 pm #216271I’d have to guess that a good way to evaluate a SP’er is to note the number of GS and then look at the team’s W/L record when he took his turn. However, if I don’t keep things really simple I always seem to become excessively confused, so W/L record is the solitary method I use to evaluate almost anything in terms of success or failure.
April 11, 2023 at 6:33 pm #216272It’s now reached the point in time when placing Manny Motter in the starting line-up is no longer funny.
April 11, 2023 at 6:38 pm #216273I am of the opinion that this team is missing Nootbaar more than we would imagine. Not having him hurts the top of our lineup and definitely hurts our OF defensive arrangements. We end up playing guys out there who shouldn’t be in the field.
April 11, 2023 at 6:40 pm #216274Maybe its so bad its good, TD. Lets hope we score more runs than them, whoever wins.
April 11, 2023 at 6:44 pm #2162751td, I agree that W/L record is the best way to evaluate a team. For an individual pitcher, no way.
April 11, 2023 at 6:47 pm #216276Bob Reed…I think you view the current manager with complete clarity with the exception of the mad scientist part. Moreover, I share your view of the Redbird managerial circumstances being symptomatic of a much larger problem. I think he’s just plain dumb…Period.
April 11, 2023 at 6:59 pm #216277Yeah, gscottar, I’m not sure his absence is the crux of the biscuit, so to speak, but they could certainly use his enthusiam and energy. This ballclub’s been taking on the look of a tumbler full of vodka that’s been laced with a potent sedative. Maybe the presence of the Nootz can wake them up.
April 11, 2023 at 7:00 pm #216278There is no reason to play Donovan in the outfield none. He plays second and Carlson plays center. I am starting to lose my patience with Marmol.
April 11, 2023 at 7:01 pm #216279a man with no long-term plan for his team
I’m pretty sure Mo would have told Oli what the long term plan is when he hired him. Not that it matters. Oli’s job has nothing to do with that.
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