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August 31, 2022 at 4:03 pm #198464
stlcard25ParticipantThe guy that needs to get going is Carlson. He is just not producing like most envisioned. A couple of years ago I predicted he would be similar to Andrew Benintendi. Some thought I was selling Dylan too short. Perhaps I was being too generous.
Carlson has had three different runs.
April 40 wRC+
May-July 129 wRC+
August 90 wRC+
Dylan clearly doesn’t like the “A” months.
August 31, 2022 at 4:32 pm #198468Final score – Milwaukee wins over Pittsburgh 6-1. Need to win tonight to keep the six game advantage.
Anybody checked the Brewers schedule lately? I believe it’s next weekend they have three with the Yankees and then three with the Mets. All six games are at Milwaukee, however.
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August 31, 2022 at 5:02 pm #198469Man, that 7 and 8 spot are hitting what, maybe a combined buck-eighty? Even a 6.10 ERA pitcher will probably carve those guys up.
August 31, 2022 at 5:37 pm #198470I stand corrected on the Brewers schedule. It’s Sept 16-21 that they have six games with the New York squads. Three with the Yankees and then three with the Mets. And yes, all are at Milwaukee. They now go to Arizona for a four game weekend series.
August 31, 2022 at 5:42 pm #198471bccran
ParticipantHope for a big win tonight. We need it. Din Din will be toasted red stocking in lemon garlic sauce.
August 31, 2022 at 5:51 pm #198472Looked like a 3rd grade tumbling class out in short RF.
August 31, 2022 at 5:53 pm #198474bccran eating his socks tonight LOL! Well small bump in the road last night I guess. Hey its baseball – we’re not gonna win them all. Got the RH hitting line-up in tonight. Read an article about another up coming superman Mason Winn. Gonna be 10ft tall by the time he gets here. We’ll be playing Cincy again soon next series at home. Hope we do better tonight.
Din-din will be Meatloaf and baked potatoes with ketchup. Mixed veggies too.
Go Cardinals!August 31, 2022 at 6:19 pm #198476Having Carlson and Dejong in the lineup in two different areas makes it very difficult to score! Those guys simply can’t hit! Yadi can’t either but he is Yadi so it’s okay!
August 31, 2022 at 6:28 pm #198477Carlson was supposed to be the next star. He is still young, but has not shown the consistency you need to take it to the next level.
August 31, 2022 at 6:29 pm #198478I’m surprised 2 runs didn’t score on that base hit by India. Might have caught a break.
August 31, 2022 at 6:31 pm #198479Hope this isn’t a carbon copy of last night’s game. Reds a stringing together some base hits this inning.
August 31, 2022 at 6:35 pm #198481bccran
ParticipantThese high ERA starters are rough on the Cardinals.
August 31, 2022 at 6:35 pm #198482I couldn’t agree more, Carlson has not produced like they anticipated, I think he maybe should’ve been left to Develop more🤔
August 31, 2022 at 6:41 pm #198483Nado with the 2 run Tater!
August 31, 2022 at 7:10 pm #198484I thought he got it.
August 31, 2022 at 7:22 pm #198485Sure wish Q could eat more innings. Hope Hicks has control today. Need Edman and O’Neill to continue with their recent production.
August 31, 2022 at 7:25 pm #198486Bottom half of our order us dead at the plate so far. Why is Albert behind Nado. O’Niel’s been way hotter lately.
August 31, 2022 at 7:32 pm #198487Edman has been the 5th most valuable Cardinal position player by Win Probability Added. Goldy, Arenado, Donovan and Nootbaar are ahead of him. If you remove his scorching April, he’s 8th, behind Carlson, O’Neill and Dickerson. He’s undoubtedly a good player and provides good value as a super utility guy who has filled in where the SS and 2B position have needed help.
This whole post looked suspect to me. Where did you get your data? Fangraphs has the following WPA numbers.
Goldy 12.54
Arenado 11.03
Edman 8.8
Carlson 6.76
Donovan 6.3
O’Neill 5.9
Nootbaar 4.1
Dickerson 3.38And not sure what the purpose of it is if you’re after a fair comparison, but if you take away Edman’s April, he has a WPA of 7.71, which would still be a solid 3rd best for the team’s position and utility players. WPA ironically doesn’t attempt to indicate how much a player’s total game contributes to “win probability added” since it doesn’t include defense. Of course, we know this is where Edman provides the most consistent value, and thus, the gap in his relative value compared to others would become even wider.
August 31, 2022 at 7:43 pm #198489Man, that 7 and 8 spot are hitting what, maybe a combined buck-eighty? Even a 6.10 ERA pitcher will probably carve those guys up.
Self inflicted pain is an epidemic these days.
And Yadi just broke an 0-22 skid.
August 31, 2022 at 7:47 pm #198490Din-din is tossed salad, Bison meatloaf with mashed potatoes, and a big glass of fresh, cold water.
Edman hitting better lately.
August 31, 2022 at 7:50 pm #198491David Bell uses a lot of pitchers. He trots guys out there left and right, even in blowouts.
August 31, 2022 at 7:51 pm #198492Yadi and Edman have set the table for Dickerson (PHing for Carlson) and Goldy. Runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out in the 7th. Tied 2-2.
August 31, 2022 at 7:53 pm #198493This guy has the name – Buck Farmer. No way I want to get into a bar fight against a guy named Buck Farmer.
Terrible AB by Dickerson. Swung at two pitches way out of the zone.
August 31, 2022 at 7:53 pm #198494EuroDandy…I’m with you on the need for Q to work a little deeper into games during his turns. He was fortunate to leave today’s game tied at 2-2 after scattering 7 hits with a BB over 4.2 IP. In his 5 turns as a Cardinal, he’s averaging just a hair under 5 IP per start. Gotta do a little better than that.
August 31, 2022 at 7:55 pm #198495Come on Goldie…. you are due!!!!
That hurts. Needed at least one run out of that inning.
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