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  • #171477
    1982 willie
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    Well waino deserved it. I read an article saying he should be considered for cy young. Considered, not winning it. I kind of agree with that sentiment. When you consider his age and the fact the team is very inconsistent in scoring runs. So I would consider at least have his name on the paper alongside others.

    #171490
    Brian Walton
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    A bit of background. The 30 Cy Young Award voters select five names and they are scored 7-4-3-2-1. So if Wainwright is considered among the five best, he should get votes.

    Based on their formula, ESPN’s Cy Young Predictor currently has Wainwright seventh.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

    #171890
    Brian Walton
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    #171912
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    Well, I hope they get him some help. If we assume Flaherty and Hudson are good to go we need 2 more to get to a 5 man rotation.

    (Anyone who says ‘Mikolas’ should be banned.)

    Then we will need a couple of spot starters to fill in when we have the inevitable injuries.

    I can’t say I’m bullish on the 2022 Cardinals. LOTTA needs, lotta question marks…..

    #171932
    14NyquisT
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    Our commander-in-chief will correct everything during the off-season. Expect the ’22 Cards to have a new look. The FO will tell us that we are going all in….. and some fans will believe HIM…. if he is still around.

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    Brian Walton
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    #171960
    Brian Walton
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    #171969
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    So, on top of everything else, KK is pizzed and its a good bet the Cardinals have completely wasted the last good year of Wainwright’s career.

    They will now proceed to overpay him and he’ll regress next season.

    #171995
    Brian Walton
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    LeBlanc is officially done for the year. Surgery and free agency are ahead.

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    Brian Walton
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    #172011
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    Was looking a “quality start” leaders and Adam is 4th in MLB with 19. Was surprised to see Alcantara on that list as 3rd with 20. Wasn’t aware that he was such a workhorse these days.

    When Adam pitches, it seems to me the team just plays better offensively and defensively. I believe there is something to be said for the mood/mindset that ripples through the team when you have an efficient and effective pitcher starting the game. In just a quick look, I came up with these numbers for this season.

    Cards have scored 4.46 runs per game when Adam starts. They have scored 4.06 in all other games.

    Cards have given up 2 unearned runs when Adam starts. That’s one unearned run every 14 games. They have given up 42 unearned runs in all other games. That’s one unearned run every 2.6 games.

    #172118
    Brian Walton
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    Misery loves company…

    #172955
    BigSmitty
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    I’ve been searching online but I can’t find the answer. Does anyone know what is the contractual details of Lester’s ‘mutual option’ for 2022?

    #172958
    Euro Dandy
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    Smitty, I don’t think there is an option on Lester for 2022. I think he’s a free agent. Cubs refused his mutual option, which allowed him to sign the 1-year $5MM deal with Nats for 2021. Cards have to cover less than 1MM of that. Cubs still owe Lester deferred money in future years, but I don’t think that impacts Lester’s status as un unrestricted free agent moving forward.

    #172959
    BigSmitty
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    #172963
    Euro Dandy
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    Ahh, gotcha Smitty. Open Passan’s tweet in the article you linked. He provides an addendum shortly afterwards that says there is no option.

    Better yet, here it is:

    #172965
    BigSmitty
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    No wonder I wasn’t able to find the info on a mutual option! Ha! Thank you for the info!

    #172978
    gscottar
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    I have been wondering about this myself. Cot’s lists Lester with a mutual option but they aren’t always 100% correct.

    https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/national-league-central/st-louis-cardinals/

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