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December 12, 2019 at 9:52 am #116592
I’ll go with the latter option. I have heard plenty of scouts talk in such ways when they know they are talking anonymously.
December 13, 2019 at 7:26 am #116676At no. 18 in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2020 top 50 prospect countdown is a power-hitting, but free-swinging outfielder who made his MLB debut in 2018, but did not return in 2019, Adolis Garcia. ($) https://t.co/pUiMUtUGQC pic.twitter.com/0vDYAXTHdK
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 13, 2019
December 14, 2019 at 9:22 am #116780The Cardinal Nation’s top 50 prospect countdown for 2020 reaches no 17 with a shortstop who had his best year with the bat in 2019 and may now be ready to join the #stlcards, Edmundo Sosa. ($) https://t.co/7gfPMPRppU pic.twitter.com/clqzbdEDAn
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 14, 2019
December 15, 2019 at 8:46 am #116819At no. 16 in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2020 top 50 prospect countdown is the organization’s top hitting prospect from the 2019 draft, a prep outfielder who was challenged almost from the start, Trejyn Fletcher. ($) https://t.co/mpFgcTv7hg pic.twitter.com/crhPjmMxQz
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 15, 2019
December 16, 2019 at 8:03 am #116881The forgotten outfielder? The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2020 top 50 prospect countdown moves into the top 15 with a LHH who struggled through an injury-plagued 2019 before posting strong results in August, Justin Williams. FREE article. https://t.co/EZ9oC3dhXs pic.twitter.com/RCSR5A1W1m
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 16, 2019
December 17, 2019 at 7:52 am #116966The Cardinal Nation’s 2020 #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown continues to no .14 with a big right-hander who reached Double-A at age 21 and has the raw material to rise to the top. But can Johan Oviedo finish putting it all together? ($) https://t.co/i3qOYYucSl pic.twitter.com/Dbx7AJ7qUQ
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 17, 2019
December 18, 2019 at 7:29 am #117082At no. 13 in The Cardinal Nation’s 2020 #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown is a third baseman who utterly dominated just after signing in 2018, but did not stand out when challenged at higher levels in 2019. Which player will Malcom Nuñez become? ($) https://t.co/9S1Fkinipt pic.twitter.com/cPkYRuFA3z
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 18, 2019
December 18, 2019 at 11:10 am #117097Just like last year was probably an overreaction to Nunez crushing the DSL, this year may be an overreaction on the other side. I don’t get too concerned if a guy doesn’t dominate immediately when hitting the states. This year will show a lot for Malcom. I think he will respond and become a solid top 10 guy.
December 18, 2019 at 11:25 am #117098I agree with #25 and suggest that the Cardinals pushed an 18-year-old too aggressively to expect him to go from the DSL to Peoria in May.
December 19, 2019 at 7:42 am #117135At no. 12 in The Cardinal Nation’s 2020 #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown is a power-hitting outfielder acquired from Cleveland in the Oscar Mercado trade. Jhon Torres finished 2019 on a high note, but remains a long way from the majors. ($) https://t.co/T7uxAjYs5s pic.twitter.com/Fo5Aocpdkb
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 19, 2019
December 20, 2019 at 7:33 am #117187The Cardinal Nation’s 2020 #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown reaches no. 11 with a left-hander who continued to start in Triple-A until he earned a spot in the big-league pen. What factors will determine Genesis Cabrera’s role in 2020? ($) https://t.co/K4FQ0XDEqE pic.twitter.com/KaOLo0d4Qu
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 20, 2019
December 21, 2019 at 8:16 am #117241The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2020 top 50 prospect countdown moves into the top 10 with a hard-throwing right-hander whose career took off like a rocket in 2019. What will 2020 bring for Junior Fernandez? (free) https://t.co/82HjFbYpLi pic.twitter.com/PeUGZUiCo6
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 21, 2019
December 22, 2019 at 8:03 am #117307THE emerging pitching name to know in the #stlcards system is RH Angel Rondon, The Cardinal Nation's fastest-rising top prospect for 2020 checks in at no. 9. ($) https://t.co/jIU3LJEjlr pic.twitter.com/ZIvj4DDPMS
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 22, 2019
December 22, 2019 at 5:46 pm #117354Where does Kim now fit in the prospect ranking – he is ròokie eligible
December 22, 2019 at 5:55 pm #117356Haven’t considered it. What do readers think?
December 22, 2019 at 6:00 pm #117357I would rank him #8. The ranking tempered by his age and only 2 years of control.
December 22, 2019 at 6:18 pm #117361I think of Kim as more of a free agent signing than a prospect. At first, I did not think the number of years of control should be a factor, but it does limit his potential impact. He is signed on the premise that he is major-league ready, so I would not include him in prospect ranking.
December 22, 2019 at 7:48 pm #117374Well, Ohtani was rookie of the year and we did make rookie status the criteria…..
December 22, 2019 at 7:55 pm #117375I get that Kim is an MLB rookie, but I do not consider him a prospect. I am not planning to add him to the site top 50, but that shouldn’t preclude the discussion.
P.S. To be clearer, the discussion of where to rank Kim is occurring on the top 50 voting thread pinned to the top of the board. Please share your Kim prospect ranking views there. Thanks.
December 23, 2019 at 9:15 am #117431The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2020 top 50 prospect countdown continues to no. 8 with the Pacific Coast League’s starting All-Star Game pitcher who earned his 40-man roster spot in November and is knocking on the big-league door, Jake Woodford. ($) https://t.co/Siu19LS4XE pic.twitter.com/Xot8S8nsPN
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 23, 2019
December 23, 2019 at 5:22 pm #117484I see more potential and development from Rondon, Cabrera, and even Oviedo than Woodford. Rates like homers/ 9 innings, and walks per 9 innings went the wrong direction, IMO, unless Woodford picks up more velocity as a reliever I am not a believer, yet.
December 23, 2019 at 6:11 pm #117491Woodford’s walks are a concern, mostly because his BB/9IP rate has been increasing as he climbs the ladder, but everyone in Triple-A threw a lot of gopher balls in 2019, and especially iin the homer-happy PCL.
December 24, 2019 at 12:14 am #117501Kim is a rookie but he’s not and shouldn’t be considered a prospect.
December 24, 2019 at 6:05 am #11750285, that has long been my point. Rookie status and prospect status are different. That is why I question using rookie status as the eligibility criteria for prospect ranking.
But if that is what you choose to use you should be consistent
December 24, 2019 at 6:22 am #117504Just to be clear, for the site, we do not use rookie status. We use the same at-bats and innings pitched limits for obvious convenience. However, we do not use rookie days on the roster limits because those are not readily available. We have done it this same way for at least 15 years.
Did the community stray from that this year? I let the group manage the voting and no one asked me about it. But if this the issue, please explain.
For an obvious exception like a foreign player such as Kim, a simple application of common sense is probably good enough – as opposed to trying to create more rules.
Or do you have a better idea? If the latter, please share.
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