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November 9, 2019 at 9:38 am #114021
For the 15th consecutive year, on Monday, The Cardinal Nation will begin our rollout of the #stlcards Top 50 Prospect List for the new year. Will no. 1 for 2020 be Nolan Gorman or Dylan Carlson – or will an underdog slip ahead of the highly-heralded duo? https://t.co/eDpqRRR2rZ pic.twitter.com/1BVyv0j6Un
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 9, 2019
November 9, 2019 at 10:12 am #114027Who on the 40 man roster remains eligible?
November 9, 2019 at 10:16 am #114028cardswin53, check out the reader voting thread pinned to the top of this board if you want to see the eligibility discussion.
In essence, Helsley, Thomas and O’Neill are out. Knizner, Arozarena, Fernandez, Cabrera, Williams, Sosa and Adolis are in.
P.S. I added this to the article for clarity. Thanks for bringing it up.
November 9, 2019 at 11:08 am #114034I really look forward to reading this each day. Participating in the voting was fun. This is fabulous content.
November 9, 2019 at 11:49 am #114045It is really a group project. 14NyquisT (representing all of you) and Derek Shore are key to the efforts.
November 9, 2019 at 12:05 pm #114048Did Helsley and Thomas have too many days on the active roster? I don’t believe they reached the innings and/or at bats criteria.
November 9, 2019 at 2:48 pm #114054I’d go with Gorman, as he has the better upside at a more important position (no chance that Carlson is a CF long term, if at all). But it will be Carlson, who is not a bad choice either.
November 11, 2019 at 7:45 am #114110And we’re off!
The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown for 2020 begins with a former big-bonus reliever who earned two promotions last season and could pitch his way into the St. Louis picture next summer. (FREE article) https://t.co/po4pDNzi9c pic.twitter.com/l0BSPmlorI
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 11, 2019
November 12, 2019 at 7:45 am #114140The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown for 2020 continues to #49 with an All-Star first baseman who led the 2019 Midwest League in runs batted in, Brady Whalen. ($) https://t.co/o3M8RdrvDP pic.twitter.com/Zh0fEU4JUH
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 12, 2019
November 12, 2019 at 9:23 am #114146NOt sure how many others agree, but here are some thoughts I have about our first 2 selections, Brady Whalen and Bryan Dobzanski:
Whalen: Should he give up hitting right handed? His career splits would support it. Like Ascanio’s late season improvement by dropping switch hitting it may benefit him. His path is blocked by Luken Baker, unless he shows more power. But watching him at Peoria he seems to be a better fielder than Baker, who likely will be a DH. And it’s good for WHalen that Gorman and Montero seem likely to remain at third base.
I think Dobzanski may be taken in the Rule 5 draft by a team like the Marlins, or (gasp) the Padres, but is it worth a 40 man roster spot to protect him? If he was a starter, he should be protected, but as a reliever who struggled at the end of his season he may not need protecting. But I still have high hopes for him. He should start the season at Memphis with a number of other prospects. Also, He needs to work on control, as his walks were too high in 2019, which may have lead to a higher home run rate.
November 13, 2019 at 6:10 am #114235A new name to follow…
November 14, 2019 at 7:47 am #114327The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown for 2020 continues to #47 with a 17-year old right-hander who earned an in-season promotion into the Gulf Coast League and held his own against older hitters, Ludwin Jimenez. ($) https://t.co/GZt8mQVKPH pic.twitter.com/H15ZVHzZ6b
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 14, 2019
November 15, 2019 at 7:28 am #114435The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown for 2020 continues at #46 with an infielder who increased his versatility, made his Triple-A debut and played in the Arizona Fall League, Kramer Robertson. ($) https://t.co/9VaGq78LWV pic.twitter.com/NjFPOKmbVg
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 15, 2019
November 16, 2019 at 8:11 am #114521The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2020 top 50 prospect countdown continues at #45 with the second infielder who came over from Oakland in the Piscotty trade. Max Schrock is heading into his third Triple-A season facing increased competition. FREE article. https://t.co/kG6YZfb66a pic.twitter.com/noxYoKKUH3
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 16, 2019
November 16, 2019 at 9:15 am #114545I am a big Max Schrock fan. I saw him play every home game at South Carolina and know his family. He can hit when healthy. If he had a problem at SC it was staying healthy. I hope he is given a chance with some team(preferably the Cardinals). I think he would hit at the MLB level if healthy.
November 16, 2019 at 10:07 am #114550A move in the Rule 5 might be best for Schrock, as one of your other faves, Edman, is one who zoomed right by him. With other infielders on the 40-man and Schrock not, he is at a disadvantage here. However, he still has a couple of years before free agency, so there is time to rebound if he can get the at-bats and produce like earlier in his career.
November 16, 2019 at 10:18 am #114554Two main differences between Max and Edman are Edman plays SS and is a switch hitter. Max is an LH hitter but a switch hitter is obviously better…Max can play 2B & 3B but not SS as his range isn’t as good as Tommy’s is.
November 16, 2019 at 10:03 pm #114614Last year, I took some notes about top 50 enhancements I wanted to make this year. I just ran across this list today. As a result, I am immediately making two additions to all top 50 player capsules – the Rule 5 eligible year or minor league options remaining along with my estimated year the player will debut in MLB. (I also went back and added this for #50 through #45 prospects already posted.) I hope folks like the enhancements.
November 17, 2019 at 7:39 am #114617The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown for 2020 continues at #44 with a relatively-inexperienced 21-year old right-hander who pitched very well in spurts for Johnson City, Francisco Justo. ($) https://t.co/z121vfoD84 pic.twitter.com/1bxWRxvgCV
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 17, 2019
November 18, 2019 at 7:34 am #114694The Cardinal Nation’s 2020 top 50 prospect countdown arrives at no. 43 with the #stlcards' first collegiate position player taken in the 2019 draft, and subsequently, their best-performing first-year hitter, C Pedro Pages. ($) https://t.co/IhANoX924q pic.twitter.com/LPofvASiAy
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 18, 2019
November 18, 2019 at 8:00 am #114697Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate that you include the pronunciation of names like Justo and Pages in these articles. If you didn’t say how to pronounce those names, I would have to wait for an audio interview to find out how to say them.
Obviously, these players ranked 40-50 aren’t going to generate much buzz, but they do give a direction to look toward for next year. Mudville’s mental notes so far:
Patrick Pomeri – high marks for potential from Brian
Francisco Justo – tall, young pitcher – unexciting FB in the 86-90 range
Pedro Pages – another catcher with upsideNovember 18, 2019 at 8:05 am #114698You are welcome. Good observations. Thanks for subscribing and following along.
November 19, 2019 at 7:45 am #114742The Cardinal Nation’s 2020 #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown arrives at no. 42 with a first baseman who is playing his way into the St. Louis picture. John Nogowski turns 27 years of age in January, however. ($) https://t.co/LQYgH6Y5m8 pic.twitter.com/SPJewvG1AQ
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 19, 2019
November 19, 2019 at 9:44 am #114758I would like to see the Cardinals trade JMart this winter and allow Ravelo and Nogowski battle in Spring Training for that roster spot.(Hey it would save a little money!)
As mentioned Ravelo has the advantage in having a 40 man spot plus being able to play corner OF. Nogowski really needs to add corner OF to his resume to enhance his chances of promotion.
November 19, 2019 at 9:55 am #114760They tried Nogowski in the OF before but backed off. It is also worth remembering that there will be a 26th man starting in 2020, but carrying a reserve who is 1B-only behind a major star at the same position seems a luxury that few can afford (also known as Luke Voit, part 2).
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