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Who else is sick and tired of watching the Cardinals play? Who else is sick and tired of watching a team that can’t hit? Who else is sick and tired of watching a team that can’t score? Who else is sick and tired of watching a team that can’t get a hit with RISP for the life of them? Who else is sick and tired of watching the players swing like maniacs, trying to slug it out there, when they should just be trying to make contact?
In two full games at Cincinnati – a hitters park – they have score two measly runs. And that’s it. Two runs!!!
I am really getting totally fed up with this crap. I’ve never really trashed and bashed people but it does seem like some people are going to have to go at seasons end. Mo, Oli, and whoever the hitting coach is. And some of those $30M players will hopefully be gone too.
Seems to me like a reboot is in order. And the way our players that we bring up seem to fizzle out it appears to me that we are in for a few years of near mediocrity.
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You will take the team Mo runs out there and LIKE it, lol.
He’s smarter than everyone else dontcha know?
Well to be honest this season hasnt surprised me. While the pitching at times has been better than i thought, i was concerned about goldy and arenado going into season. They arent only issues but if they were doing their usual, prob a little bit better. So since i kinda saw this, i dont see the need to rant too much about it
Welcome to the 1970’s.
Stuck in the muck of mediocrity throughout that forlorn decade, the Cards went 800 up, 813 down. But they didn’t bring in Whitey until after the club went 74-88 in 1980.
And I believe that’s what they need right now. No, not Whitey’s ghost wandering the clubhouse like Hamlet’s dad. But a manager with an elite MLB track record and strong personality — like Buck Showalter, for instance. Sure, he’s 68 now, but he just averaged 89 wins in two seasons with the Mets, including 101 victories in 2022. (The pond scum won just 77 the year prior to his arrival.) Heck, Buck’s younger than Brian Snitker, and Snit is one of the top 5 or 6 field bosses in the profession.
Or anybody else with a real history of conspicuous success at the major league level. Or just promote Stubby, for heaven’s sake. He’s earned it far more than Marmol ever did. More than Shildt or Matheny, for that matter. (But especially Marmol.)
Bruce Bochy was resurrected by the Rangers and won a World Series in 2023. In 2024 he’s 10 games under 500.
I don’t understand why they haven’t been able to scout, draft, and develop pitching. And it’s embarrassing that they still haven’t found a catcher when they knew Yadi was going to be retiring at some point.
Bob were you sick of it before the ASB?
I mean this post would have more credibility if you did it back then.
Team hasn’t played well for about a month or so. It will likely take some lucky to get into the playoffs. I don’t think the offense gives us enough nights. I mean 9 hits in 2 games at GAB is a terrible showing.
42 games left. They may want to play better in all aspects of the game to stay in this. Idk if they got enough to do so but it’s been a interesting season. Kept me watching. Would be a shame if they can’t end the season on a positive note. Better than last year for sure.
“And tired” always followed sick. Worst beating I ever got in my life, my mother said, “I am just sick…” And I said, “And tired.” I don’t remember anything after that.
Bill Cosby
We have had the worst run differential in the division all year, but were hanging in there by winning the close games with a strong late innings bullpen. It is not surprising that we have fallen back more to where we would expect to be record-wise.
I did not expect us to be real good this year, and never fully bought in to the whole “leadership” thing as a reason for our 2023 failure. Anytime the focus is on non-field-of-play reasons you raise the risk of making a bad decision.
Most teams go through this sort of thing. I guess maybe the Dodgers are an exception with their financial resources. But there is no reason to think we should be immune to periods of mediocrity. What is hard to take is management’s misfiring on quite a few transactions, and the young talent you hoped would be a future star not making progress.
I lived through the lost decade of the ‘70s, and trust me the sun still rises and there are reasons to get up in the morning and find joy. But it is just a little bit brighter when your favorite baseball team wins a lot of games.
It’s not just starters and catchers. Middle of the order RBI bats, top of the order types who get on base and are dynamic offensive players. They don’t develop any impact players at all. Its fringe spot starters, mop up guys. Down in the order types who can only survive if their PAs are carefully curated with favorable matchups.
Winn is the closest they’ve come. His get on base is marginal for top of order and I’m sorry but he is not a dynamic offensive presence up there. I know, he’s young. He could get better or he could fizzle. Do we need to talk about which seems more likely?
It’s very sad.
This once proud franchise is now mediocre at best. Players once loved being on the Cardinals and teams once feared facing us.
Today, we are a joke!
Good news: a committed organization can turn things around relatively quickly in this age of baseball.
Bad news: we simply do not have ownership that is willing to do what it takes to climb to the top again.
We need a filthy rich owner who cares about the value of the franchise instead of year over year profits. We need a guy who will spend money like it’s his hobby, lol.
We need a filthy rich owner who cares about the value of the franchise instead of year over year profits. We need a guy who will spend money like it’s his hobby, lol.
Sounds like you’re describing the Mets owner, Steve Cohen.
He’s carrying a $305M payroll, highest in the game. The Mets have just lost 4 in a row and are now an impressive 3 games over .500, and believe it, only 2 games behind in the race for the last Wild Card. Thrilling!the sun still rises and there are reasons to get up in the morning and find joy.
The market has had a couple nice days lately Mike——-
I haven’t watched many games of late (baby coming and bought a house) but I did go to a game that we got free tickets for in Chicago. Cardinals baseball used to be a welcome respite from the daily grind, and you generally knew that the team would be competitive, if not in the thick of the pennant race. Now, it’s hard to see the club stuck in 2nd gear and incapable or unwilling to make the moves required to keep up with the better clubs in the NL. I have some hope that the farm produces a real winner over the next 5 years, but it’s fairly clear that the front office needs a refresh for that to have a chance to happen. A new PBO, GM, manager, hitting and pitching coach, on down…let’s see a real push to win big before the ’30s start.
Thanks, Brian! It’s a real blessing and we are very excited. My wife comes from a family of Cubs fans (not too hardcore), but I will make sure our daughter is raised properly as a Cardinals fan.
Mudville:
You make the key point. The inability to produce quality talent. If you’re a team that is relying on growing their own talent and not spending on free agents, that’s fine. But, then you have to produce the talent and they’re not doing that. The next step is to then go out and spend money and a lot of it. Junior says no and I’m guessing that Trey will echo that. The result is the Cardinals will be a second tier team for years maybe decades.
“The market has had a couple nice days lately Mike——-“
Indeed – like I said, I had more confidence that the market would bounce back than I did the Cardinals. The fundamentals of a good economy are there – low unemployment, inflation stabilizing closer to the “ideal” of 2%.
The Cardinals on the other hand do not look so good. They have somehow stayed afloat, despite being outplayed. When you look deeper in to the numbers, the economy looks okay, the Cardinals look like a last place club.
Sick and tired are the words for this game tonight too.
7-0 Reds in the 6th. Again no runs in a hitters park. We do manage a couple of runs now. 7-2 Reds.
Time to clean house. Nobody is safe.
I am concerned that with the descent into mediocrity, that talent (on and of field) won’t want to come here.
And ownership doesn’t pay top talent $$$. They sell the “tradition and baseball heaven” line. Puh-lease.It might look a lot worse than mediocrity after 19 games with the Dodgers, Brewers, Padres and Twins. It could get downright gruesome in a big hurry.
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