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I love the way Oli will bring up a prospect that has earned a promotion. LaRussa would have forced the front office to trade the likes of a Walker, Thompson, and prospects for some partially used up veteran, rather than bring up a player that didn’t have the stats that LaRussa needed to make his personal numbers system work (for him).
I don’t think Oli is promoting or demoting anyone. He hasn’t been given the keys to the car.
Yep, TLR was the primary driving force in the trades of both JD Drew and Colby Rasmus.
This is why we have had three rookie managers in a row.
I’ve never been big fan of Fermin. He seems likely a AAAA player. But I do like his increased power numbers at Memphis, so we’ll see.
Both Drew and Rasmus were head cases. Drew didn’t want to be in the lineup if he had a mosquito bite bothering him that day, and Rasmus didn’t want to be coached by anybody but his dad.
Yeah, I’d say so, and TLR made certain they were shipped out. At any rate, the Cardinals probably don’t win without the trade return of Wainwright as the closer in’06 or BP help after the deadline in ’11.
Um, didn’t Drew bring us Adam Wainwright?
Didn’t the Rasmus trade go a looong way toward winning the 2011 World Series?I recall being ambivalent about the JD swap and against the Rasmus trade at the time — and I couldn’t agree more that Don Tony was himself something of a head case when it came to some of his players/pitchers.
But. It’s pretty hard to argue against the Drew and Rasmus trades, given the eventual outcomes.
I agree that both trades contributed to the WS wins. We can thank Walt Jocketty for making them. With all the hype around Drew and Rasmus when they joined the Cardinals organization, they likely would have been characterized as ‘untouchable’ had they not been head cases. What I was really referring to is TLR’s aversion to young players/prospects.
When Carlson is ready to return my best guess is Pages but Burleson would be on the block if Herrera starts hitting again. I don’t think we can keep 3 catchers forever though.
Edman is so far away it’s not worth worrying about currently.
Carlson is progressing. He’s hitting off a tee and doing a light throwing program and he was going to start hitting off a pitching machine. That may have happened by now or it still may be in a day or two. Maybe in a couple weeks we’d see him back on the MLB club.
Edman still sounds like he’s a ways out. Hard to project when he hasn’t advanced much.
Middleton could start a rehab assignment very soon.
I haven’t heard anything about O’Brien at all but I think he was just shut down for a month to rest and he’d ramp back up after. It’s been a month and I haven’t heard one peep about him.
Carpenter looked to be close and then started feeling some oblique pain so he’s back resting again.
Brings back memories of Colby Rasmus’ dad back then. I think he spent more time posting here than he did working with his son on straightening out his swing. Maybe that’s why Colby’s career was not a stellar one…….and we can thank Brian here at The Cardinal Nation for that.
To be honest, I’m not counting on any of those IL guys for much. Carlson mostly because of his history of not being the answer. Edman because he’s past the point were he needs more time. It seems like something went wrong unfortunately. The pitchers because forearms tend to mean there is an elbow problem, and the longer it goes the more likely that is. I don’t even know what to say about Carp.
Carp should really just retire at this point. I think the FO is trying for another feel good, good bye tour to hand waive over 2024 – that’s what I think.
I did find where Katie Woo said last week that O’Brien has started a throwing program. That doesn’t mean much but I guess it’s something. The bullpen really can’t get too much better. These guys just extend our depth. Carlson is almost certainly an upgrade though – even if that’s in RF over Burleson. It’s debatable whether he’s an upgrade over Siani and his elite CF defense. Edman might as well go on the 60-day IL so we can try to grab the next Richie Palacios.
After Rasmus got shipped to Toronto, Tony Rasmus didn’t like the Jays hitting coach approach either.
Colby really should have stopped telling his dad things after the first season of him moaning.And yes, people will come out to see Jose Fermin, because they will enjoy singing the Jose song, that has infected every stadium that contains a quality Jose
Not playing Fermin on the Sunday either? This is total BS.
If a guy is a ‘prospect’, he stays up with the team for half the year with an OPS under .600 and gets to play everyday.
If a guy is a non-prospect meaning he was drafted late or is a late bloomer, he has to destroy AAA, then get the call-up, then sit around on the bench for five days, then get an occasional pinch hit, and a start once a week if lucky. And unless he excels in that role, they throw him down to AAA at the first blip of mediocrity. Pretty much setting them up to fail. How are you supposed to do well, when you haven’t had an at-bat in nearly a week.
They should give these players a fair chance. Bring then up when they are red-hot. Throw them in the line-up everyday and see what they can do. Give them two weeks or even a month.
Who is that new kid with the .933 OPS?
Should probably let him start a game at some point and see what he can do.Maybe one of those sub 650 OPS studs could be rewarded with a day off.
He’s collected 5 PA’s, but I like the fact that he once played for the Akron, Rubber Ducks…You can’t go wrong with that.
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