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The Cardinals have a player in AAA who is absolutely crushing it?
Does he hit for power.
Yes. 4 HR in 68 ABDoes he limit strikeouts?
Yes. 4.4% K rate/Can he take a walk?
Yes. 16.2% BB Rate.Sure, new guy, but isn’t that a pretty small sample size.
Yes, but he did pretty much the same thing last year in AAA.
Its repeatable.OK, but don’t we have incredible hitters in St. Louis already.
Although he is a utility infielder his bat would play easily at DH.
Burleson can have a seat. Gorman can use more days off, and one of these infielders can be shifted to OF so Jordan Walker can get some more AAA reps.But what about Saggese. He’s much higher rated.
Sure, but he isn’t doing anything near what Fermin is doing. It’s not close.
Who cares if Fermin wasn’t drafted high.Are you his father?
No, I don’t know him. I’m just a stat-scout who owns him in fantasy.Call the kid up. He’s ready.
“Sure, new guy, but isn’t that a pretty small sample size?
Yes, but he did pretty much the same thing last year in AAA.
It’s repeatable.”Not accurate. Last year in AAA, at age 24, across 400+ trips to the plate, Fermin hit .220 with a .700 OPS. Nothing remotely like the domination he’s shown this season. (But I would agree that he’s a distinctly better hitter than he was a couple years back. He murdered winterball and then hit very well in Spring Training, albeit against weaker pitchers.)
But the math is bad. If the Cards didn’t already have a logjam of position players, maybe Fermin could get a couple weeks of regular playing time in the majors. But I can’t see the fit, even with Edman and Carlson and Carp on the shelf.
Even if Jordan Walker is sent down, and the outfield is Donovan-Noot-Burleson — which by the way might be the worst defensive flycatching group in MLB — Nolan Gorman still has to play pretty much every day. And you can’t put Gorman or Fermin at DH, because then Ivan Herrera isn’t playing. There’s no room at the inn. Or infield.
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Of course, if Jose keeps clobbering the ball for the next 10-12 games, you really owe it to him to give an MLB tryout if at all practicable.
I misspoke, sorry.
Last year Fermin hit .227 in AAA in 66 at-bats.
The 400+ plate appearances in AAA that I cited above combined his 2022 and 2023 AAA seasons.The point remains the same, obviously. He’s never hit anything like this in AAA before.
When you are in last place and fading, sacred cow has to be on the menu. Send Gorman out, he is stinking it up. If he hits in AAA bring him back. Fermin is on the 40 man, bring up the hot bat.
Fermin calls to mind Pete Kozma. The team benefitted from his hot streak, but then he came back to earth. But team history would be different if it weren’r for that hot streak, and him being in STL rather than the minors. A hot bat is nothing to waste.
Although the 2023 numbers may seem dissimilar to this year:
HR
2023 4 in 81 AB
2024 4 in 68 ABBB%
2023 14.8%
2024 16.2%K%
2023 6.2%
2024 4.4%While he is slightly better across the board in all categories, the numbers are markedly similar.
The main difference is that:BABIP
2023: .190
2024: .347Whether that’s a case of bad luck in 2023, or some newfound skillset I’m not sure.
I can’t count the number of times I’ve been reminded that young players can get better. But its always in the context of a disappointing tout being defended.
Alec Burleson can be DFA’ed.
He’s 25 now, and put up negative war all three seasonsCardinals don’t have room for a bad defender who mostly plays DH and has a .656 career OPS.
Not sure what they see in him.
Fermin is not exactly a new guy. He got 61 PA’s in STL last year and hit .235.
I agree he is tearing it up in Memphis right now and deserves to be called up to STL since they are desperate for anyone who can hit the ball out of the infield. I mentioned the other day that Fermin should be on the STL roster isntead of Crawford. All of that “leadership” from Crawford and Carp doesn’t seem to be helping much anyway. I don’t think Fermin is an everyday player but he couldn’t be any worse than what we are getting out of 2B right now.
I get that some people don’t like Burleson’s contribution and have decided he has no future. But calling for him to be DFAed is a really bad idea. Why give away a player for nothing who could be optioned to the minor leagues, contribute there and perhaps help out later on? Depth is needed over a long season.
Further, no one would have to be DFAed for Fermin (the subject of this thread) to come up. He is already on the 40-man roster.
I think some are so firm in their opinions of players they don’t think through the situation clearly. Further, this fixation of bringing up Burleson in every thread is downright odd. Last I checked, he is an outfielder and Fermin is an infielder.
Mo needs to off Crawford and Carp. I’ve seen enough of the veteran leadership. We need contributors.
Good point about the DFA. True, I just think he shouldn’t be on the roster. Fine depth option.
As for the IF/OF, Burleson is mostly getting DH reps right now, and there are plenty of guys on the squad who can shift between IF and OF, so even thoough Burleson is an OF, and Fermin is an IF, it would still work.Welcome JJ! I can’t see Crawford staying on too much longer. He was signed in case Winn struggled, but Masyn has been one of our best players. Plus the way things are going, we will need to focus more on the future than this year, and Crawford is there because management thought we would compete this year.
Waiting a bit longer is fine, but you would think by early May if Fermin is still raking then Crawford will be released and Jose brought up. They really should move on from Carpenter as well and go with guys that can be used as more than just DH/1B types. Maybe for leadership they keep Carp around as a coach, but retire him as a player. They did something similar with Red Schoendienst back when Red was at the end of the line as a player.
DFA Burly is ridiculous! Gorman and Walker to Memphis seems likely over that.
We can all agree, a shakeup is needed or forget the season and rebuild for 2025….
Answer: simple, play for another franchise.
Cardinals rank 26th in MLB with a .634 OPS, but hey, just keep rolling out Walker and Burleson.
Working out great so far.Ok,
At least the Cardinals management gets it
Jordan walker demoted. Jose Fermin up to the big club.
You guys are gonna love him.Jordan walker demoted. Jose Fermin up to the big club.
You guys are gonna love him.This is not his mlb debut. He played in STL last year. We actually know who he is. He is a AAAA type player who has had a hot start in AAA this year. I’m glad he got promoted but I’m not expecting him to be Wade Boggs.
I’d he hit .250 with an occasional walk and double i’d be happy.
The power won’t be there. Last year The guy looked like he weighed a buck sixty even though his profile says 190. Which he’s either completely ripped or tubby.
I love the way Oli will bring up a prospect that has earned a promotion. LaRussa would have forced the front office to trade the likes of a Walker, Thompson, and prospects for some partially used up veteran, rather than bring up a player that didn’t have the stats that LaRussa needed to make his personal numbers system work (for him).
‘He just has to be better than Walker’
…..has been so far this year.
Yep, TLR was the primary driving force in the trades of both JD Drew and Colby Rasmus. Those two trades were instrumental in the WS championships of both ’06 and ’11.
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