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With all the talk of players changing hands there were some high profile ones who stayed put due to asking price.
Now we know how hard it is to get high level prospects for what we were willing to trade. Lesson learned for some of you.
All of these trades and St. Louis got nothing.
None of these players will ever amount to a hill of beans.
Just like the Baltimore trade where we got Rom and a couple of others.
I wonder if Mo knows what a hill of beans means?
Maybe we should ask Bloom at this point, see if he knows.
Overall, I’m a bit disappointed that we couldn’t do a little more trading and certainly disappointed we couldn’t unload Arenado although I’m sure there just weren’t any takers. On the plus side though, we were able to turn 3 expiring reliever contracts into 6 promising prospects and $250,000 in international bonus pool. And Bill saves a few million.
The Pirates, Angels, and Cubs had some head scratching moves or non moves. Probably others too. Several players that absolutely should have been moved didn’t get moved.
It’s fitting that MO’s final acquisition is a Molina.
So – this isn’t a reset this is now morphed into a rebuild.
The Cardinals used to have a deep farm system that fed the ML roster AND also provided enough extra prospects so that THEY could trade from depth to secure the ML veteran or two they needed to round the roster and make that nice run into the playoffs.
Those days are long gone and as painful as this is going to be it’s why the Astros are the Astros. They took their lumps for a few years but built it the right way and they went to seven consecutive ALCS.
This IS hard to stomach though. We haven’t been really good for a decade and ’23-’25 have been pretty rough. Now we are faced with the reality that we are going to have to take our lumps for 2-3 more years before we can get back to what we became accustomed to.
2026 is likely to be pretty bad. We are apparently stuck with Gray and Arenado. We ARE building up our stable of prospects some of which will come through and some of which can be traded for other assets. But 2026 and 2027 look pretty bleak especially coming on the heels of the last decade.
It is what it is and hell, we may not even have baseball in 2027 due to labor issues which would set the rebuild and player development back an entire year.
Pretty depressing to be a Cardinal fan right now.
So – this isn’t a reset this is now morphed into a rebuild.
When they announced the “reset”, we all knew it was going to be a rebuild.
Dodgers did a great job today. They got Alex Call for two middling prospects.
Then got James Tibbs for a broken Dustin May.
Bill reclaimed 6.7mil on Helsley/Matz from our opening day total.
Demo has made progress, good luck with the additions. The runways got cleared for some pitchers innings. Audition away.
It is not a rebuild. Trading 3 pitchers does not constitute a rebuild.
It’s a rebuild in the sense that the Cardinals have indicated they are not going to spend next year, either.
Well, Mo couldn’t move guys in their mid thirties who are fading and underperforming their contracts. No surprise there, especially since their NTCs would have to be bought out too. It seems unsurprising that none of the regulars, Noot, Burly, Donnie, Herrera were moved. It would have been hard to trade them for prospects since we have to field a team, and we likely wouldn’t have gained anything from swapping role players with other orgs. Some mid-level prospects is a reasonable take for the expiring contract guys.
The first 110 games was less bleak than it could have been, so maybe the rest of the year won’t be as bad as it should be.
Do the results of the trading deadline make the Cardinals a better franchise for the future?
Check back in 2 years. I mean the 2023 sell off has pretty much been a bust. I think we got the best we could get but I’m not holding my breath any longer on the return we got.
They pretty much sold what they could this deadline and held on to the players they likely didn’t get what they wanted for them.
I had some dinner and ran across a few more tidbits.
The Minnesota Twins, who are about $440 million in debt, erased a huge chunk of it by trading away virtually their roster in a matter of 12 hours.
No wonder Carlos Correa wanted out.— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) July 31, 2025
The Minnesota Twins have traded 10 players off their 26-man roster in less than 24 hours!
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) July 31, 2025
The San Francisco Giants close out the trade deadline by sending OF Mike Yastrzemski to the Kansas City Royals as they wave the white flag
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) July 31, 2025
Shelby Miller and Jordan Montgomery traded to Brewers
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) July 31, 2025
I agree. The Cubs deadline performance was rather underwhelming. I imagine their fan base is furious. They still have a very deep lineup so they could make a deep run but they did not get the starting pitching that they needed.
One final thing I will say about the deadline is that since it is now over Mo is officially a lame duck. There really isn’t much left for him to do the final two months of his tenure here.
No surprises. They traded all the expiring contracts without NTC’S. All the rest of the talk was just speculation. GScottar makes the point about Mo truly being lame duck now. Really he has been all season. Best of luck to him but Im way past ready for the change.
None of the trades today mean that the Cards are not doing their reset. The basic core is still intact…not a very talented core, but it is still a core. We are banking on getting some star power from the system or having to buy it on the market (trade or free agency). Time will tell how aggressive they are. They should be on 2026 but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 2027.
I’m not sure if I would classify Jesus Baez and Blaze Jordan as mid-level prospects. Baez was ranked as New York’s 6th best prospect and Jordan has intriguing stats and starts his time with the Cardinals’ organization at AAA, Memphis.
Personally i think not getting rid of some other players was a big waste. Looking at some players that have moved, we def had better value players that could have gotten something. The fact arenado is still with us is more of an indicmant against him than the organization. Just tells you how far he has fallen.
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