Cardinals Team Hall of Fame

Home The Cardinal Nation Forums Open Forum Cardinals Team Hall of Fame

This topic contains 193 replies, has 19 voices, and was last updated by Avatar GameCard 2 weeks, 3 days ago.

Viewing 25 posts - 26 through 50 (of 194 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #44829
    BlackHillsCard
    BlackHillsCard
    Participant

    Free

    I just voted for Lankford and Tudor.

    #44835
    Avatar
    Bw52
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Just cast my vote for John Tudor and Vince Coleman.Coleman by just a tiny bit ahead of Lee Smith and Izzy.Rolen,Lankford,Hernanandez tiny bit behind Lee Smith and Izzy.IMHO every one of them deserve in.

    #46094
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    #46100
    Avatar
    Cardinals27
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Scott Rolen is one of my favorites all time. He will be one I vote for. the other is more difficult.

    #46228
    bicyclemike
    bicyclemike
    Moderator

    Paid - Annual

    Rolen was my favorite Cardinal for a couple of years there when he was a star. The whole soap opera between him and LaRussa sort of soured me on him a little bit, although neither guy took the high road in that crazy deal.

    That’s the cool thing about the Cardinals Hall – fans can vote for some of their favorites.

    #46419
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    Izzy pushing his own candidacy. Danny Mac has been doing the same on the telecasts.

    #47727
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    #47803
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    FWIW, my two personal choices this year…

    #48618
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    #48643
    Avatar
    PugsleyAddams
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    I wanted Tommy Herr on that list. I went with Tudor & Lankford.

    #48646
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    We definitely evaluated Herr among the candidates to go on the ballot. He could have finished as high as eighth this year in our vote, as they drew the line at seven.

    #50601
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    Coming this Friday night before the Cubs game, Friday, May 4.

    The fifth elected Cardinals Hall of Fame induction class will be revealed on FOX Sports Midwest during a 30-minute pregame television special at 6:00 p.m. CT. A pregame ceremony will also take place to commemorate the announcement. The 2018 Cardinals Hall of Fame enshrinement ceremony will take place on Saturday, August 18.

    #50892
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    Reminder this is tonight. Tune in – you may be a bit surprised.

    #50905
    bicyclemike
    bicyclemike
    Moderator

    Paid - Annual

    I encourage votes for Keith Hernandez at http://Cardinals.com/hof/ .

    I like Hernandez a lot, and would have had him third on my list this year. I actually voted for him last year, along with McCarver, as he ranks higher than McGwire in my opinion. But I can understand the sentiment for Big Mac as he did something no one else had done, and was such a (literally) huge presence on those late ’90s teams.

    #50936
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    #50973
    Avatar
    858booyah
    Participant

    Free

    Vince Coleman! LOL

    #51011
    bicyclemike
    bicyclemike
    Moderator

    Paid - Annual

    Brecheen and Lankford were probably overdue in their selections to the Cardinals’ Hall. I believe they were the two highest players in career WAR as a Cardinal to not be included in the club’s Hall of Fame.

    I lobbied for John Tudor to get in as the third candidate, and outlined several noteworthy accomplishments of his in my article on the players a couple of months ago.

    Coleman was a little too one-dimensional to be a Hall of Fame player in my opinion. I looked at him similar to last year’s induction of Mark McGwire. They each primarily did one thing better than just about anyone, but that “one thing” seems to resonate with fans. Vince was electric when he played, and could disrupt an opponent to the point of madness.

    I think that those of us who grew up watching a lot of Cardinal baseball in Busch II, think of our teams as being special due to speed. We seemed to regularly have guys who could fly around the bases, and lived and died with speed and defense, while other teams tried to over power opponents. It was not like today where every team has several guys who hit 20+ homers. Back then, we would have one guy who could hit 20 homers, and a bunch of guys who ran the bases well and play defense.

    Then Vince came along and stole bases like no one else before him, and we win 101 games. That was the Cardinal baseball we loved, and it still lives in fresh in fan’s memories.

    #59476
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    OK, this isn’t about the Hall of Fame, but retired numbers are very closely related, so I put it here rather than start a new thread.

    Medwick is very deserving, but my guess is that since so few care about old timers, the DeWitts would have no reason to honor him with a retired number. On top of it, if they did retire no. 7 – before no. 51 – the noise from some would be considerable – warranted or not.

    #59479
    Avatar
    Cardinals27
    Participant

    Paid - Annual

    Then when we win a 12th World Series we should retire another number to make them match. Was it Jack Buck or Mike Shannon that says “That’s a dozen cousin”?

    #59709
    bicyclemike
    bicyclemike
    Moderator

    Paid - Annual

    I’ve commented on here about the odd fact that the Cardinals retired Slaughter’s number 9, but have never retired Medwick’s number 7. Arguably, #9 was worn by more significant players that #7 after Slaughter, and before his number was retired (Maris, Torre, Pendleton).

    As time has passed, Matt Holliday has become the most significant #7 to date. But the club should have retired it before Matt played in St. Louis, had they been consistent with the process on other retired numbers.

    The club’s standards on history puzzle me quite a lot. The 1892 thing is weird, although I believe some of that was due to league pressure.

    I kind of think of the team’s history timeline like a relationship where say you and your spouse have been together for 25 years, but the first 5 years you lived together, then got married. You really have been a couple for 25 years, but the official document shows 20 years. Writers, fans and everyone outside the Cardinals’ organization consider 1882 as the year the Cardinals came into existence. But the official start year per the club is when the organization moved from the disbanded American Association to the National League, and rules were set in place that are mostly still in place today.

    #59722
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    Slaughter was the among the first three retired numbers by the DeWitt ownership, during the 1996 season. The others were Red and Ozzie. (They added Hornsby the next year, 1997.)

    I do not know the circumstances, but I have a few thoughts. It was the first year of the new ownership and they were trying to get back disgruntled fans and look back to the team’s heritage. It was the 50th anniversary of Enos’ signature moment, the Mad Dash, in the 1946 World Series Game 7. Also, Slaughter was still alive to be recognized in person.

    Medwick died in 1975 so was not around the club any time recently, as was Slaughter.

    On the 1882/1892 matter, it is not just the Cardinals decision. It was apparently a National League call not recognizing the American Association that also affects three other clubs. I still wish they would fix it – especially since player stats during that time are recognized.

    I wrote three articles about this back in 2009. Here is the third, with links to the other two.

    1800’s AA player stats ok, but team stats are not

    #65266
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    Harry the Cat received my top vote from the Veteran Era group.

    #65772
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    The Cardinals Hall of Fame ceremony Saturday, August 18 will not be televised live, but it will be shown on a delayed basis on FOX Sports Midwest, so set your DVRs!

    Air dates for Cardinals Hall of Fame induction special on FOX Sports Midwest
    Monday, Aug. 20 7:30 p.m.
    Tuesday, Aug. 21 5 p.m.
    Thursday, Aug. 23 2 p.m.
    Friday, Aug. 24 6 p.m.
    Saturday, Aug. 25 5:30 p.m.
    Times Central

    #65841
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    If you click on the photos, you can read the writeups on their plaques.

    #66083
    Brian Walton
    Brian Walton
    Keymaster

    Paid - Annual

    Reminder that the first airing of the Hall of Fame special is coming up tonight before the pre-game show. The schedule is two posts up from this one.

Viewing 25 posts - 26 through 50 (of 194 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

First-hand news and commentary on the St. Louis Cardinals™ and their minor league system for 20 years