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February 14, 2022 at 5:06 pm #180001
bccran said:
“Jury’s still out with Bader.”
Harrison Bader has 6.1 rWAR per 650 PA in the last 2 years. That’s higher than…
– Mike Trout
– Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
– Bryce Harper
– Marcus Semien
– Freddie Freeman
– Manny MachadoWe are not talking about this guy enough. pic.twitter.com/BEtd7pPzzk
— MLB Metrics (@MLBMetrics) February 14, 2022
February 14, 2022 at 7:08 pm #180002Qualifiers will always get the press. Their larger sample size carries more credibility.
Harrison’s next progression would hopefully be his first 500+ PA season.
Semien and Freeman just led their leagues in PA’s. They didn’t require a replacement level player to cover starts for them, watering down the teams production.
I don’t care for this comparison.
February 14, 2022 at 7:46 pm #180005Bader is very streaky. Hopefully he can become more consistent. Consistently good not consistently bad.
February 14, 2022 at 7:49 pm #180006I don’t think anyone would rather have Bader than Vlad or Trout, but his results indicate that he can perform at a very high level. That is my takeaway.
February 15, 2022 at 7:23 am #180013Opening the top five in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown for 2022 is a dynamic shortstop who can also pitch in the upper 90’s. What is next for 2020 second-rounder Masyn Winn? FREE report! https://t.co/j7sdIdMURK pic.twitter.com/MWGaJXnX8J
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) February 15, 2022
February 15, 2022 at 7:28 am #180014I don’t think anyone would rather have Bader than Vlad or Trout, but his results indicate that he can perform at a very high level. That is my takeaway.
I agree with that. I think Bader is a known commodity at this point…a high level defender who adds value on the base paths. He will crush lefties and be below average against righties. He’s a starting level CFer but IMO not a high level one. At this point, he’s the best the Cards have and I’m thankful he’s manning CF.
February 15, 2022 at 10:41 am #180026In 2020, Bader was benched in the middle of a hot streak for a guy that had an OPS .500 points below him. But the narrative here is he can’t play a full season.
February 15, 2022 at 12:05 pm #180027Tweedie must really be using a non traditional scale. Is Winn’s arm really innacurate or something? Cause there’s no way he’s just a plus arm. I read that at one point he had twice as many 92+ mph throws as the entire MLB group of infielders.
February 15, 2022 at 5:03 pm #180035Bader HASN’T played a season over 427 PA’s. We don’t know that he CAN, and hold his 2020-2021 production. Assuming he “can’t” is your narrative LA.
It’s a weak comparison judging him vs everyday qualifiers. In fact, it’s a slap in the face for those players who do the full season grind.
February 15, 2022 at 6:33 pm #180036A lot of guys look good in the lower levels and then stall out. Hopefully Winn won’t hit a speed bump this year. Same for Walker.
February 16, 2022 at 6:43 am #180043Fourth in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect rankings for 2022 is the organization’s "Starting Catcher of the Future". Next up for 21-year-old Iván Herrera will be to master Triple-A with Yadier Molina's future an important part of his. ($) https://t.co/FYCuYsMV3e pic.twitter.com/l0zftAzfDU
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) February 16, 2022
February 17, 2022 at 6:54 am #180056The lost covid year put Herrera in AA before he was ready to be competitive at the plate at that level. So we still need to find out if he looks as good in the upper levels as he did in A ball. We’re going to be SOL for a Yadi replacement if he doesn’t. At 21, time is on his side, for now.
February 17, 2022 at 7:02 am #180057The lost covid year put Herrera in AA before he was ready to be competitive at the plate at that level.
Since when is above average not competitive? He walked in almost 14% of his plate appearances with an acceptable K rate, hit 17 homers and did a solid job behind the plate. I really don’t get takes that pretend that he didn’t have a very successful year at Springfield, given his age and position.
February 17, 2022 at 1:06 pm #180061If you like .231, OK.
February 17, 2022 at 1:16 pm #180062.231/.346/.408, which, once again, is above league average. That seems plenty competitive in my book. He also ran a .261 BABIP after never having one lower than .337 at any point before. I’ll take that from a 21 year old catching prospect.
February 17, 2022 at 1:36 pm #180063Slash line 101
.231 / .346 Herrera
.252 / .297 MolinaBling, above is the BA/OBP of both catchers at their level played. Which BA/OBP do you prefer?
February 17, 2022 at 5:49 pm #180068I will amend my previous comment. If you like a .231 hitter who can work walks off AA pitching, OK. Also, I will point out that League average includes all the non prospects and roster filler. He should do better this year.
February 19, 2022 at 6:49 am #180106The no. 3 prospect on The Cardinal Nation’s Top 50 countdown is the #stlcards system’s top-ranked prospect pitcher for three years running. 2022 is shaping up to be Matthew Liberatore’s first big-league opportunity at age 22. ($) https://t.co/gOv0fLz4L4 pic.twitter.com/vJRSV3PjFJ
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) February 19, 2022
February 19, 2022 at 7:26 am #180109A good reliable lefty eating innings in the middle of the rotation would be dreamy. Hopefully injuries in STL will not force the jump too early this year. Lib never really was able to work his WHIP down throughout last season, but he did seem to learn to handle the rather busy base paths better and produce good results. He is way above an Oviedo, but the latter illustrates what busy base paths in AAA corresponds to in MLB. Hopefully, the powers will not screw up this coming season too much.
February 20, 2022 at 7:34 am #180117At no. 2 in The Cardinal Nation’s Top 50 rankings is the #stcards’ top prospect according to multiple national ratings. 19-year-old Jordan Walker has a tantalizing mix of talents, but the slugger has two more levels to master before reaching St. Louis. ($) https://t.co/u2Wj2myIox pic.twitter.com/y4jJj3ciGz
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) February 20, 2022
February 20, 2022 at 12:00 pm #180119Excellent write up but one minor correction. Walker’s profile lists his highest level in 2021 as Palm Beach, but as you mentioned in your writing, it was Peoria.
February 20, 2022 at 3:30 pm #180121Thanks for the correction. What you refer to said, “Palm Beach (High-A)”. Half right and half wrong. Old habits die hard.
February 22, 2022 at 7:06 am #180154The Cardinal Nation's Top 50 Prospect countdown reaches the top. 3,000 words on why Nolan Gorman is the #stlcards no. 1 prospect including his outlook for 2022 and beyond. Where does he fit and how does his power stack up to other top prospects? (free) https://t.co/fAlEVsLTaO pic.twitter.com/g9yCnYacZW
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) February 22, 2022
February 22, 2022 at 6:23 pm #180159I have mentioned before that I think a lefty pull hitter with a pronounced platoon split is going to have problems in MLB. But we will see. Maybe they will change the rules so a defender can’t stand where he’s likely to hit it.
February 22, 2022 at 6:56 pm #180160Minor league teams have plenty of information on player tendencies, too.
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