StL 2024 Game #59 thread – Sunday, June 2 at Phillies

[CardsRedSox4Ever]

Let’s hope we get the good Helsley tonight.

[1toughdominican]

Rick would’ve had him at 3B…

[Wooster2]

Helseys gotta get a k here

[Wooster2]

One more baby!

[Wooster2]

Drama!

[AlbertTheMachine]

I’ll take winning 1 out of 3 in Philly. Only 1 game under .500

[Wooster2]

Yowza!! Thats the Ticket! That was a good game!

[CardsRedSox4Ever]

Nice win! Love that Castellanos whiffs to end it.

[Jnevel]

Nice K. That’s a winner.

[blingboy]

That was incredible.

[jj-cf-stl]

They found a way!

Hat-tip to the pen.

[1toughdominican]

Nice W with 6 scoreless from the BP and 0 ER’s in 10 innings from Cardinal pitching.

[colhusker]

Bullpen was great tonight.

[LACardFan]

Winn on pace for 25 errors this season…

[1toughdominican]

Yeah, that’s too many, LA. The oven mitt is beginning to really burn.

[1toughdominican]

Haha…Believe it or not, the Redbirds are now in sole possession of the 3rd NL WC.

[LACardFan]

LOL. A sub .500 record is good enough for the playoffs!

And that is all the Cardinals aim for…..

[1toughdominican]

Yeah, it may not happen in my lifetime, but odds are that eventually a regular season sub .500 team may go into the books as a WS winner.

[Shady]

If Winn keeps struggling at SS. Would they consider Saggese at SS if he could just be as steady as DeJong? No doubt, Winn would be a fabulous CF with that speed and arm. Especially, if Scott continues to have batting issues. Saggese has been playing a lot of SS at Memphis. Saggese hasn’t hit extremely well, yet , at Memphis. But like with Burleson, I believe the Cardinals know he’s going to be a heckuva hitter.This is just for speculative discussion. Critics, try not to overreact. lol

[AlbertTheMachine]

Winn isn’t moving off SS. Especially for Saggase who was reportedly an average 2B defender. Saggese is playing SS now, but that is probably prep for a super util role. Winn just turned 22 and has amazing tools and just needs to polish them over time. The greatest defensive SS Ozzie Smith himself had 20+ errors each of his 1st 3 seasons.

[Shady]

“The greatest defensive SS Ozzie Smith himself had 20+ errors each of his 1st 3 seasons”. Wow ! That’s amazing. ATM, thanks for posting that.

[RBK]

How about we wait until Saggese (74 wRC+ at Memphis) demonstrates he can be at least an average hitter at AAA before we talk about him as a MLB 2B, let alone SS?

*Correction: 69 wRC+ including last year.

[1toughdominican]

That’s accurate, but Smith had 830 or more chances at SS in each of his first 3 seasons and he was awarded a GG at the position in his third season. Winn has committed 9 E’s in 217 chances. That’s relative to about 34 E’s in 800 chances. I’m not trying to be overly critical of Winn, but I think comparing his time at SS to Ozzie Smith’s first 3 seasons is a little vague.

[AlbertTheMachine]

I wasn’t trying to compare Winn to Ozzie as he isn’t close to that type of defender and won’t be, but I wanted to point out errors are a great measure of defense. And it is something that Winn will improve over time.

[blingboy]

Smith played at least some of his career on carpet I believe. Not sure how that factors, just mentioning.

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